mitsugirly
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Let me start by saying...this is a long post, but I wanted to explain everything so that I could get the correct advice. So bare with me please.
I'm having a discussion with someone about my settings on another board and it has become VERY confusing as to what I should have not only my camera but my processing (PS3 and lightroom) settings on.
It started with a picture I posted that ended up looking TOTALLY different and dull compared to the picture that I processed. I ask what the reason behind that could be. This has happened to me once before and no matter what I did, it would not show up online the way it looked when I processed it.
I was told it was an issue with my color space or color profile.
I was reading something and it was telling me that the best pictures had to be programed a certain way in PS and lightroom. Here's the link that I went off of. Lightroom Queen Blog » Blog Archive » Why do my photos look different in Photoshop?/
So I changed my settings to that thinking I would get a better picture.
The other poster told me: "They should be in the sRGB color space. I noticed that the link you posted chose the prophoto colorspace. While prophoto does have the widest gamut (range of colors), it also results in a larger file and does not display properly on the web unless it has the profile imbedded in it AND it is viewed through a color-managed browser."
Also, in order for others to view the real picture, they must have their color managed browser set to view the tag in the picture.
It was recommended that I shot in sRGB on my camera for the best picture. I shoot with a Sony a300 and the only option I've found on it is Adobe RGB. My instruction book on the camera says:
"About Adobe RGB color space:
Adobe RGB color space has a wide range of color reproduction, compared to sRGB that is the standard color space of the digital camera. If the main purpose is to print out the image, especially when a large part of the subject is vivid green or red, Adobe RGB is more effective than other sRGB color modes. <---this sounds opposit to what the poster is saying.
When I went to my lightroom to change the settings to sRGB I got the following message:
The sRGB color space cannot encompass the full range of colors available within Lightroom, PSD can be less efficient than TIFF with respsect to metadata updates. When saving from Photoshop, please be sure to use the "Maximize Compatibility" option in Photoshop. Failure to do so will result in images that cannot be read by Lightroom.
So then it was suggested to change everything to match my camera settings...which means set lightroom and PS to adobe RGB (1998) settings which I did.
Since I can only shoot in adobe RGB, then I was told to save the pictures using the "save for web" dialogue box in PS to convert the photo to sRGB.
When I tried to save it this way I got: "The image exceeds the size Save for Web was designed for. You may experience out of memory errors and slow performance. Are you sure you want to continue?"
I was told "In CS3, there is a small arrow below the "save" "cancel" and "done" buttons that you click and then choose "convert to sRGB." I also click the "embed color profile" or "embed icc profile" checkbox to select it. This will mike you file a few K larger, but I think in portrait/landscape photography it is worth it."
In PS3 for me and the save box...
There is only a save and cancel button. No done button.
There are no options to save to sRGB on there.
It says Save Options:
As a copy <---you can use
Alpha Channels <---it is grayed out
Layers<---this box is checked already
Annotations<---grayed out
Spot Colors <---grayed out
Then there is a Color:
Use Proof Setup: Working CMYK <----this is grayed out
ICC Profile: Adobe RGB (1998) and this is checked.
Those are the only options I have
I am soooooo confused on what my settings should be. Could someone help me out with all this? What settings should my lightroom and PS3 be on and how should I be saving this in order to view on the web?
I'm having a discussion with someone about my settings on another board and it has become VERY confusing as to what I should have not only my camera but my processing (PS3 and lightroom) settings on.
It started with a picture I posted that ended up looking TOTALLY different and dull compared to the picture that I processed. I ask what the reason behind that could be. This has happened to me once before and no matter what I did, it would not show up online the way it looked when I processed it.
I was told it was an issue with my color space or color profile.
I was reading something and it was telling me that the best pictures had to be programed a certain way in PS and lightroom. Here's the link that I went off of. Lightroom Queen Blog » Blog Archive » Why do my photos look different in Photoshop?/
So I changed my settings to that thinking I would get a better picture.
The other poster told me: "They should be in the sRGB color space. I noticed that the link you posted chose the prophoto colorspace. While prophoto does have the widest gamut (range of colors), it also results in a larger file and does not display properly on the web unless it has the profile imbedded in it AND it is viewed through a color-managed browser."
Also, in order for others to view the real picture, they must have their color managed browser set to view the tag in the picture.
It was recommended that I shot in sRGB on my camera for the best picture. I shoot with a Sony a300 and the only option I've found on it is Adobe RGB. My instruction book on the camera says:
"About Adobe RGB color space:
Adobe RGB color space has a wide range of color reproduction, compared to sRGB that is the standard color space of the digital camera. If the main purpose is to print out the image, especially when a large part of the subject is vivid green or red, Adobe RGB is more effective than other sRGB color modes. <---this sounds opposit to what the poster is saying.
When I went to my lightroom to change the settings to sRGB I got the following message:
The sRGB color space cannot encompass the full range of colors available within Lightroom, PSD can be less efficient than TIFF with respsect to metadata updates. When saving from Photoshop, please be sure to use the "Maximize Compatibility" option in Photoshop. Failure to do so will result in images that cannot be read by Lightroom.
So then it was suggested to change everything to match my camera settings...which means set lightroom and PS to adobe RGB (1998) settings which I did.
Since I can only shoot in adobe RGB, then I was told to save the pictures using the "save for web" dialogue box in PS to convert the photo to sRGB.
When I tried to save it this way I got: "The image exceeds the size Save for Web was designed for. You may experience out of memory errors and slow performance. Are you sure you want to continue?"
I was told "In CS3, there is a small arrow below the "save" "cancel" and "done" buttons that you click and then choose "convert to sRGB." I also click the "embed color profile" or "embed icc profile" checkbox to select it. This will mike you file a few K larger, but I think in portrait/landscape photography it is worth it."
In PS3 for me and the save box...
There is only a save and cancel button. No done button.
There are no options to save to sRGB on there.
It says Save Options:
As a copy <---you can use
Alpha Channels <---it is grayed out
Layers<---this box is checked already
Annotations<---grayed out
Spot Colors <---grayed out
Then there is a Color:
Use Proof Setup: Working CMYK <----this is grayed out
ICC Profile: Adobe RGB (1998) and this is checked.
Those are the only options I have
I am soooooo confused on what my settings should be. Could someone help me out with all this? What settings should my lightroom and PS3 be on and how should I be saving this in order to view on the web?