Negs are focused, paper is not.

dave chamberlain

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I'm new to developing my own film, but I seem to have hit a conundrum.

I shoot HP5+ ISO 400 and Delta Pro 100.

While the (very real?) possibility exists that both my negatives and/or enlarger focusing could be slightly out of focus (I do use a focus finder), my prints are very bad. They aren't even close, in terms of focus, to the negatives.

The neg-holder has glass, so the negatives should be flat. Exposure isn't that long, that heat from the bulb might be warping the negatives (they're still sharp after multiple attempts.)

Does anyone have any tips or suggestions?

My thoughts right now are that either 1) there is some sort of vibration (the cooling fan in the colour head?) which is blurring the image, or 2) somehow my chemicals (Ilford Multigrade & RapidFixer) are interacting with the emulsion on my paper (Ilford RC Multigrade) and causing distortion of the grain? Or, am I missing a fundamental issue when developing B&W with a Durst CLS500, ie wrong density value dialed in? Currently set at M10, and zeroed on everything else.

Sorry for the essay, but I'm clutching at straws trying to sort this out, so ANY advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

P.S. Can't scan negatives, so unable to give a side-by-side comparison of negative vs paper.
 
Hmm, is your focus finder out of wack ... you should be able to see the projected image on the paper to see if it really not in focus.
 
It's a possibility, but I do focus with the eye before using the finder.
The only other possibility, which I failed to mention, is that I wear contact lenses. I've had an additional check-up just to make sure my prescription is correct. Everything seems to be in order....up until I actually start the print.
 
Can we get some history about this enlarger and lens ... is this the first time using this setup ?
 
It's a Durst L900. Would have to check the exact details of the 80mm. Can't for the life recall whether it's a Componon or Rodagon.
Have been using it for about 3 weeks now, on and off, so a newbie, but don't understand why the projected image goes from in-focus to out-of-focus, once I start developing
 
Hmm, I am not familiar with that Durst ... from what I am reading it appears it is autofocus ?
 
Yes...from what I understand, focus is set with head raised to the top of the column. It then transfers across, no matter the height thereafter. However, the photos still come out blurred.
 
If the in the larger is an auto focus model perhaps it has the wrong Cam installed for the lens in use?

My money is on the focus finder being out of whack. Since you have a glass carrier, I don't think the negative is popping due to heat warping, which happens very often with glass less carriers. After 30 seconds or so a negative will almost invariably pop to a different focus than when the negative is cold, when held in a glass-less carrier..
 
Hi Derrel,

I'll have to go check it all thoroughly tomorrow, but it should be fine. It was a working enlarger in an artists darkroom, which was sold for a LF replacement, so in theory, all the bits and pieces are correct.

I failed to mention that I wear contact lenses, but I've even gone back for a re-test of my prescription just to make sure.

I'll scratch around for another focus finder and see whether that solves the problem. Thanks
 
Is the paper laying flat in the easel?
 
Hi there,

Yes, I believe so. I've taken to weighing down all 4 sides, in an attempt to ensure that there is no lifting along the two "open-side" edges.
 
When you use the focus finder, are you using it at the center of the image? And are you focusing on the film grain itself?

Another possibility is something is moving the enlarger when you're exposing the paper. Machines like washers, dryers, furnaces etc. can vibrate them ever so slightly. Or something (or someone) walking around on a framed floor.
 
To be honest, I've spread my focus point around. Usually as close to the middle ie directly under the lens, as possible. But I do chase the darker areas as well, as several people have mentioned that it's easier to find the grain in darker patches.

Have tried closing up the aperture a bit as well, just to take a bit of strain off the eye.

I'm doing something fundamental wrong, I just don't know what.
 
You should focus with the lens wide open.
 
Here's a test. First: you ARE using a "dummy" sheet of enlarging paper in the easel when focusing, right? A sheet of the same,exact brand/weight of enlarging paper you will be exposing. Placing the focusing sheet in the easel, then placing the grain focuser on top of the sheet, then heating the negative a bit, then focusing, that is the standard operating procedure.

Now...a "cold" negative will come to a focus that is different from a "hot" negative; this is critical when you are using the lens stopped down to f/8 or f/11 and making a long exposure, such as say, 30 seconds or so. If you will be doing long print exposures, you MUST focus with the negative "hot", after it has "popped"...otherwise the focus will be wrong.

I wonder about the grain focuser: if it came from the factory with a thin, 1-millimeter thick foot pad, and that pad is gone...it will throw the focus off on the enlargements.

If the easel is not level, it can mess with the focus. Does the easel have 4 rubber feet? Are they uniform?

If the enlarger column is not firmly screwed down to the enlarger baseboard, it can cause issues.

Everything must be tight, and aligned...negative stage must be aligned...etc..
 

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