On-line security and privacy

[skieur]

Why does everyone have to be on a level playing field? Did you develop ANY of the software that you use? Most likely, no. And yet you use it, maybe even on a "primitive" computer.

You don't think that the Government would be interested in developing stronger encryption??

(It was the US Navy that gave us Tor.)

I am sure you realize that Tor has been broken, as has SSL, 128 bit and 256 bit encryption.

I'm sure that is a sign that they're working on something better now.

I'm honestly not all that concerned with it... You seem to be suggesting that if you want good encryption, you have to have the hardware to develop it yourself.

Online privacy is dead - that's what you want to hear, right? What else is new? In a month or two, it will swing back to the "secure" side. Then, whatever that is - will be cracked too. And we will be right back where we started. Things will keep improving, for both sides. This is not "new"...

Edward Snowdon reinforced how much spying is being done on the average citizen and as someone pointed out on the news today: it is NOT for the benefit of the individual which means it is to benefit 3 sectors:

1. the government: today all Canadian airports net wifi communication in was reported as being monitored by the Canadian spy agency and will be sent to various government departments such as immigration, taxes, etc.

2, business: spam advertising based on profiles from Internet info.

3. the criminal element: target, AOL, and today Bell was hacked.

On the news, the negative consequences are starting to come out. A Canadian woman was put on an American no fly list because of a previous medical condition. (Medical files are supposed to be private.) Target victims are starting to have credit card problems.
Whoever hacked AOL put out the search information from individuals on the net which could be a rather serious problem for your son or daughter if not yourself, depending on the nature of their surfing.

I said earlier on that online privacy is NOT dead but it takes more work and effort as the violations become more frequent and more potentially serious in consequences.

Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon Twitter, Facebook and Drop Box routinely provide information on ALL their members to the US government. Microsoft indicated that the content of ALL CLOUD services are accessed by the US government.

So, privacy and freedom are inter-related. Do you want your privacy or not?

 

[Josh66]

So, privacy and freedom are inter-related. Do you want your privacy or not?

Obviously, the more privacy that is available to us, the better off we are.

I think that we'll see more of this in the near future, until someone with enough money to sustain the legal fees, wage loss, etc decides to challenge it in court.

Till that happens, there isn't much, if anything, that I can do - except wait. Wait for "the next thing"...

 

[minicoop1985]

I wonder how long it will be until we're all under 24 hour surveillance. Then we'll all be able to see our "Making of You" videos. Gross.

 

[skieur]

So, privacy and freedom are inter-related. Do you want your privacy or not?

Obviously, the more privacy that is available to us, the better off we are.

I think that we'll see more of this in the near future, until someone with enough money to sustain the legal fees, wage loss, etc decides to challenge it in court.

Till that happens, there isn't much, if anything, that I can do - except wait. Wait for "the next thing"...

Sure there is lots you can do, without legal fees or other money. Be anonymous on the net and by the way don't use Google to research how, since Google records your ISP address and your searches and shares them with the government and other companies and since the AOL search engine was hacked, one has to suspect that Google may also be vulnerable.

 

[skieur]

I wonder how long it will be until we're all under 24 hour surveillance. Then we'll all be able to see our "Making of You" videos. Gross.

Well in England with thousands of security cameras on the streets and facial recognition software, they are close to being under 24 hour surveillance. You realize that people have had their web cameras hacked, by the way....as in turned on remotely from another computer on the net.

 

[terri]

I wonder how long it will be until we're all under 24 hour surveillance. Then we'll all be able to see our "Making of You" videos. Gross.

Well in England with thousands of security cameras on the streets and facial recognition software, they are close to being under 24 hour surveillance. You realize that people have had their web cameras hacked, by the way....as in turned on remotely from another computer on the net.

Easily solved with a strategic placement of tape. Just a reminder, as this thread is teetering dangerously close, no general politics are allowed in the open forums. If you want to delve much deeper into this topic, you need to be a Supporting Member and take it to the private Subscriber's forum. It was designed exactly for this kind of thing. Thanks!

 

[minicoop1985]

Didn't mean to be political. I just don't feel like my grandkids need to see an episode of "How I Made Your Mother."




















OK fine I'm making these just to make horrible puns.


PS I'm so glad I don't have a webcam in... anything, actually.

 

[skieur]

I wonder how long it will be until we're all under 24 hour surveillance. Then we'll all be able to see our "Making of You" videos. Gross.

Well in England with thousands of security cameras on the streets and facial recognition software, they are close to being under 24 hour surveillance. You realize that people have had their web cameras hacked, by the way....as in turned on remotely from another computer on the net.

Easily solved with a strategic placement of tape. Just a reminder, as this thread is teetering dangerously close, no general politics are allowed in the open forums. If you want to delve much deeper into this topic, you need to be a Supporting Member and take it to the private Subscriber's forum. It was designed exactly for this kind of thing. Thanks!

I thought that politics was either Republican/Democrat, Liberal/Conservative, Right wing/Left wing etc., which I realize possibly gets into the so-called "hot button" type arguments that go nowhere. Are we NOT supposed to even mention the word government, or government agencies?......because I am certainly not sure where general politics comes into any discussion without views that are labeled by party or philosophy.

 

[Josh66]

Are we NOT supposed to even mention the word government, or government agencies?......because I am certainly not sure where general politics comes into any discussion without views that are labeled by party or philosophy.

That's what I take away from the policy.

Like saying "bomb" on a plane, Meet the Parents style.

I find myself disagreeing with you sometimes, but it's nothing I can't handle. (I still think a few beers and a discussion would be quite enjoyable with you, lol.) These "forbidden fruit" discussions are the ones I enjoy most.


If you really want to get picky, almost any topic can be made into a political discussion. Ask me how, lol.


I said once before that the forum is PG-13 now, but I think it may actually be closer to PG.

 

[Josh66]

I wonder how long it will be until we're all under 24 hour surveillance. Then we'll all be able to see our "Making of You" videos. Gross.

Well in England with thousands of security cameras on the streets and facial recognition software, they are close to being under 24 hour surveillance. You realize that people have had their web cameras hacked, by the way....as in turned on remotely from another computer on the net.

Easily solved with a strategic placement of tape. Just a reminder, as this thread is teetering dangerously close, no general politics are allowed in the open forums. If you want to delve much deeper into this topic, you need to be a Supporting Member and take it to the private Subscriber's forum. It was designed exactly for this kind of thing. Thanks!

Are you advocating civil disobedience?

 

[skieur]

Are we NOT supposed to even mention the word government, or government agencies?......because I am certainly not sure where general politics comes into any discussion without views that are labeled by party or philosophy.

That's what I take away from the policy.

Like saying "bomb" on a plane, Meet the Parents style.

I find myself disagreeing with you sometimes, but it's nothing I can't handle. (I still think a few beers and a discussion would be quite enjoyable with you, lol.) These "forbidden fruit" discussions are the ones I enjoy most.


If you really want to get picky, almost any topic can be made into a political discussion. Ask me how, lol.


I said once before that the forum is PG-13 now, but I think it may actually be closer to PG.

I agree. Different backgrounds, different knowledge and different experiences make for different views. I also find that posts can be badly misread or misunderstood at times to further complicate things. After fighting the tax man without a lawyer and winning twice in a row, I do not have much respect for government snooping and/or annoying spam and advertising.

 

[Josh66]

I also find that posts can be badly misread or misunderstood at times to further complicate things.

Sadly, that's just the way is is more often than not.

I think it's important to just take a step back and really think about what has been said and what you want to say next sometimes.

Also, sometimes I don't follow my own advice, so there's that. lol. I know I've said things I probably shouldn't have. I can't take it back, and I can't say that I didn't mean it. Whatever. We don't all have to agree on everything, that's how "discussion" works.