Photoshop CC and Lightroom subscription

[ecphoto]

I was on the @dobe website today and saw that they have a subscription for$9.99 a month and you get the two programs plus cloud storage. I chatted with one of their cs reps and she told me that it is an ongoing subscription and you need to keep paying indefinitely in order to continue using it.
I think I would rather pay once and keep my software, what do you guys think?

 

[tirediron]

I think you'll be buying other software then. I really despise the 'subscription' model for software, but it's the way of the future, and at least at $9.95/month it's in the realm of cost similar to that of paying for semi-regular updates.

 

[SCraig]

I was on the @dobe website today and saw that they have a subscription for$9.99 a month and you get the two programs plus cloud storage. I chatted with one of their cs reps and she told me that it is an ongoing subscription and you need to keep paying indefinitely in order to continue using it.
I think I would rather pay once and keep my software, what do you guys think?

If you want the latest version of Photoshop you have no choice. It is not available as regular distribution software any longer, only by subscription.

 

[ecphoto]

I was on the @dobe website today and saw that they have a subscription for$9.99 a month and you get the two programs plus cloud storage. I chatted with one of their cs reps and she told me that it is an ongoing subscription and you need to keep paying indefinitely in order to continue using it.
I think I would rather pay once and keep my software, what do you guys think?

If you want the latest version of Photoshop you have no choice. It is not available as regular distribution software any longer, only by subscription.

That's a really bummer! I liked paying once, even if it was a lot; then I'd upgrade when I was good and ready. This paying a monthly fee for the right to use it can get way pricey over time.

 

[Msteelio91]

I was looking into this as well. It's not a bad offer but the idea of paying monthly for software just bothers me. That said, always having the latest version is pretty sweet...

 

[Trever1t]

Realistically what was the price of CS6? Take into account it was updated every 2 years or so...that $10/mo is cheap! That said I'm sticking with my CS6/LR4 until the raw converter requires me to update.

 

[JerryLove]

I was on the @dobe website today and saw that they have a subscription for$9.99 a month and you get the two programs plus cloud storage. I chatted with one of their cs reps and she told me that it is an ongoing subscription and you need to keep paying indefinitely in order to continue using it.
I think I would rather pay once and keep my software, what do you guys think?

If you want the latest version of Photoshop you have no choice. It is not available as regular distribution software any longer, only by subscription.

Once again: the industry has responded to worries of piracy by making the pirated versions superior (IIRC: the pirates simply cracked the "check-for-license" portion and there you go).

And yea, it's $9.95 / mo... *if* you subscribe for a year and *only* until that year is up (at which point: you will pay whatever the prices are then).

I signed up and opted out in the first 30 days. CC6 will be just fine I think.

 

[KmH]

CS 6 full retail was $699. It is also worth noting that Photoshop CC includes all the CS 6 Extended ($999 retail) features that were not included with the regular CS 3, 4, 5, 6.

LR 5 retail is $149 and you can still get a hard copy of it on a disc. Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5
Upgrade pricing for moving from any previous version of LR to LR 5 is $79. Adobe Photoshop Lightroom 5 Upgrade

Those of us that qualifies for it got upgrade pricing when moving to CS 6 - $199.

But if you bought CS 6 and LR 5 at full retail that would be $850, and while you don't own that software you do/did get a perpetual use license.
At $9.99 a month - $850 / $9.99 = 85 months or 7 years.

At CS 6/LR 5 upgrade pricing - $278 / $9.99 = 28 months.
That's about how often CS/LR upgrades were happening (18 - 24 months) before Adobe went the subscription route.

So those of use who upgraded regularly are paying just about the same as we were before Adobe went subscription. Actually at $9.99 a month we are coming out a little ahead.
But, we don't have to wait 18-24 months for the next new features. We get them as soon as they are ready for release.

Adobe have kept extending the Photoshop Photography Program pricing special of $9.99 a month deadline. The newest end date is - May 31, 2014 - as on their Photoshop Photography Program FAQ page. Adobe Creative Cloud - FAQ
IIRC the original end date was December 31, 2013.

Which might make one think they lost a lot of photographers when they went to the subscription method, and aren't getting as many photographers to sign up on the subscription plan as they think they need.

 

[SCraig]

That's a really bummer! I liked paying once, even if it was a lot; then I'd upgrade when I was good and ready. This paying a monthly fee for the right to use it can get way pricey over time.

I have no interest in it, I'm not going to "Lease" software. Truthfully I don't even like Photoshop and can't stand Lightroom. I got both on sale about a year ago and seldom use them so I have them when I need them but the majority of the time they just take up disk space.

 

[ecphoto]

That's a really bummer! I liked paying once, even if it was a lot; then I'd upgrade when I was good and ready. This paying a monthly fee for the right to use it can get way pricey over time.

I have no interest in it, I'm not going to "Lease" software. Truthfully I don't even like Photoshop and can't stand Lightroom. I got both on sale about a year ago and seldom use them so I have them when I need them but the majority of the time they just take up disk space.

What does your workflow look like?

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[SCraig]

What does your workflow look like?

What does my workflow look like? Take photos, adjust as necessary, I guess. Obviously I don't understand your question.

 

[Overread]

People just dno't like the idea of being slaved to someone else or having to rely upon their internet connection. Especially as its a monthly thing (services like Steam games are one-time purchases which can then run offline without any need to call back again unless you change computers).

Adobe has likely lots a lot of photographers, however lost is a relative term as most likely just bought the last version of PS and stuck with it. They'll update eventually at some point; plus at £10 a month Adobe should be targeting the huge casual market who can now actaully envision owning the full software package without being a pirate.

 

[ecphoto]

What does your workflow look like?

What does my workflow look like? Take photos, adjust as necessary, I guess. Obviously I don't understand your question.

I mean the way you process / organize them once you download them from your cards.

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[SCraig]

I mean the way you process / organize them once you download them from your cards.

I copy them into directories on my computer based on year and subject. The directories are set so that they all hold the amount of data that will fit on a DVD. For example, Photographs/2014/Vol01 for the first directory this year. I use Nikon Transfer to download files from camera to computer since it has the ability to rename files as they are downloaded. Files are number sequentially and prefixed with the year, i.e. 2014_00001.NEF, 2014_01000.NEF, etc. When a directory gets full it gets written to two DVD's; one stays here at home and the second goes to my office.

I look through the photos I just took using FastStone image viewer. Those that I want to edit are copied to a working directory (press [C] in FastStone and the file is copied to the directory of my choice). From there I edit the chosen few using Nikon Capture NX2 which is my preferred editing software. If it won't do what I want I also have DxO Optics, Corel Paintshop Pro, Corel Aftershot, and Photoshop CS6. About the only use any of those see is distortion correction in DxO Optics and adding a small watermark in Paintshop Pro. Probably 90% of my edits are done in Capture NX2.

 

[AlanKlein]

What will do when the subscription price goes up? What do you do with all your edits once you stop paying the fee? Files won't be able to be backwards compatible to operate on old CS6. Do you plan on paying monthly for the rest of your life?