Someone please explain this "title" thing to me

[Bokeh]

And that would be offensive to some people, too...

Depends on the context... in the context Jadin is putting on it sure, but if you're playing a basketball game and just kidding around???

 

[jadin]

My comment has nothing to do with your gif. Period.

It's not my gif, I didn't create it, just passed it along...

That was my way of saying the gif is not part of the discussion

Where do you think the sports phrase came from? I'm talking about the words origins; not what it's used for most recently. Think about it, "Owned!" where did it come from? Why is it used when you just got "owned" by the other guy, team etc? Outside of slavery there isn't any possible definition for why the word is used how it's used today.

Sure there is. HAven't you ever heard the phrase "I just made you my b!tch"? It's a way of saying you totally own the person - it has absolutely nothing to do with something that happened 250 years ago.

Which would make the word used by pimps or selling someone else's body for money. Technically pimping is owning another person. Which would actually make it slavery. So no matter how you cut it the word has origins in owning other people. Aka slavery.

Try to not be so defensive and look at it from someone else's viewpoint.

 

[Chase]

Depends on the company you're with...if you're with a group of friends, I doubt anyone would care....if you're with a group of strangers, you just never know.

 

[Hertz van Rental]

Yup! Always err on the side of caution - some folks can be touchy. That's why lawyers are rich....

 

[jadin]

And that would be offensive to some people, too...

Depends on the context... in the context Jadin is putting on it sure, but if you're playing a basketball game and just kidding around???

The context is irrelevant. It's origins are the same, why would you want to associate yourself with something such as being proud to own another human?

 

[Bokeh]

Which would make the word used by pimps or selling someone else's body for money.

...or some people playing a game of some kind or trading "fake" insults like people do, and when one wins he says "Oh! I OWN you!" This could also mean those captured in a battle of some kind. They are the property of their conquerers; not necessarily slaves though.

Try looking at it from a non-slavery perspective; you seem stuck on that for some reason. Have you ever heard of the word "overloading?" That's where one word can have multiple meanings based on the context. You asserted the only usage is regarding slavery, but that isn't true; in this case it means victory by a wide margin. In the case of the GIF, it means humiliation.

Another term is "Ownage." Similar deal.

As you see, it can have many meanings.

 

[jadin]

All of your "other meanings" mean the same thing. Someone becoming the property of someone else.

"They are the property of their conquerers; not necessarily slaves though."

Then what necessarily are they? Spoils of war is still property. People as property is still slavery.

I understand how the word is used now. Large margin of victory. I realize this is how it's currently used. But it's current meaning does not over-write where it came from.

Own, owned, ownage, all the same.

As you can see, all of it's "many meanings" still point to the same thing.

Regardless, I've more than made my point, I can't make you see the world through different eyes. It does however cast you in a different light from mine.

 

[Bokeh]

All of your "other meanings" mean the same thing.

Hardly... they are the same word, but with different meanings. the meaning you point to is "owning" a slave. The "own" used in sports a lot is one more of "I own you in this game." I'm suprised you can't see the different. It has nothing to do with owning a person, just because you beat them in a game. Just because those contexts shared the same word, they have different meaning; the word "own" is overloaded.

Then what necessarily are they? Spoils of war is still property. People as property is still slavery.

No, priosoners are "owned" by their captors, but they aren't whipped and put to work, they're detained as prisoners.

I understand how the word is used now. Large margin of victory. I realize this is how it's currently used. But it's current meaning does not over-write where it came from.

It doesn't even share the same origin at all; it juts shares the spelling.

As you can see, all of it's "many meanings" still point to the same thing.

No, not at all. The word is overloaded, those meanings only shared the spelling of a word. If I said I'm going to "make" a pie and then I said I was going to "make" you do the laundry, same word, different meaning.

Regardless, I've more than made my point, I can't make you see the world through different eyes..

But it seems it's you that only sees one definition of that word; I can see many.

 

[Nikon Fan]

AHHHHHHH...STOP ALREADY!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: It's not worth it, all this makes me want to find a new forum. What's that saying something about one bad apple spoiling the bunch???

:hug: Now let's all just make up :hug:

 

[Hertz van Rental]

all this makes me want to find a new forum.

Don't you dare - we like you. Let's just leave them to it and go elsewhere like everyone else ;-)

 

[Nikon Fan]

all this makes me want to find a new forum.

Don't you dare - we like you. Let's just leave them to it and go elsewhere like everyone else ;-)

Thanks Hertzy, will take that advice

 

[jadin]

That's entirely my point, they don't have different meanings.

When you "own" someone in sports you are saying that "they are your b****" - your words. This is the exact definition of owning a person as property.

There is no other definitions. Period. Go look up the definition of own.

The word is definately not overloarded as you say. It has but one meaning. There are no seperate meanings that it could possibly mean. The very context of the sports phrase IMPLYS ownership of another person. What else could that possibly mean?

Your so hellbent on proving your point you won't ever see anyone elses. (and yes I see your point, but it only proves mine)

 

[jadin]

It's called "General Off Topic Discussions" for a reason. You're not required to read every post you realize...

 

[Bokeh]

they don't have different meanings.

They do have different meanings.

 

[Bokeh]

When you "own" someone in sports you are saying that "they are your b****" - your words.

I said you use own in sports, OR you can say "I made you my *****" as in prison... separate usages. See, there are two right there.

There is no other definitions. Period. Go look up the definition of own.

ROFL!! I did. HERE is the definition I was referring to all along... I hope this puts your mind at ease. From dictionary.com:

Own: "To have control over: For a time, enemy planes owned the skies. "

THAT is the kind of own that is referred to in the gif... NOT the own of slavery you have been stuck on.

We clear now?