Talk me out of the Nikon D7000!

[Stradawhovious]

....starting to realize the limits of that model....

Realizing and hitting them are VERY different. Yep. Correct. I don't disagree with that.
Change of body is needed when you HIT that limit consistently over time. For you, that may be a good rule, for me it's not. I'd rather change the tire before it goes flat, not after.
It's a beginners camera, you had to know it had it's limits as a 500 dollar body compared to 1200+ I knew very little about it going into the purchase. Had I known more, and understood the mechanics more, I would have purchased the D90 (the 7000 wasn't released at the time) and we wouldn't be having this conversation.




I'm starting to take on many classes and hands on experiences where the 3000 will physically fall short.

In what ways? If it's a photography class, it can be done with a point and shoot. I doubt they have assignments that say .. "You must shoot this image with an iso of 6400 with no noise." If the assignments are like that, then YES, the d3000 will physically fall short. I seriously doubt it is like that though. A studio lighting class, portrait class and the like that require the use of a speed light or other better-than-popup lighting cannot be done with a point and shoot, neither can many other types of specified classes. I know that based on the 5 photos I have submitted to this site you and likely others probably feel I should look into classes like this, but they are on the horizon for better or for worse. The D3000 doesn't have the same type of speedlight controls as the better quality bodies out there, and I want to make sure it keeps up. And yes, I'm also taking a class for hand held low light situations where low noise at high ISO is much preferrable to the snowy Jackson Pollock effect of the D3000 at ISO1600.




Will the limits of the 3000 eventually get in my way?

If you don't want limits, go and get a 6k dollar body. D7000 will have its limits to. In a year, will you want another body? Glass is forever (for the most part lol) invest. I'm not a pro, nor would I pretend to be. I cannot justify or afford a 6k body, but I can a $1,200 one. I will be investing in glass as time goes on. This is sound advice, and I thank you for it.


Plus I'm kind of a gear junkie..........
Shhhhhhhh!
Don't tell anyone!
Touche', but it's not a valid excuse for an upgrade. In you world maybe it isn't, but in my world it is. I will never be able to compete with Jerry Miculek behind the trigger of a wheel gun, but you should see my competition revolver rig. It's a thing of beauty. Does it make me a better or faster shot? Hell no. Does it make me enjoy the hobby more? Absolutley.

Tell me some exact details on WHY you want/need the upgrade that the d3000 can't do for you right now.

1. The big one is the ISO. The D7000 has better image quality at an ISO of 6400 than my 3000 has at 800. I take a lot of indoor pictures of the kids events, sports matches, get togethers etc, and its important to me to WANT to look at the pics, rather than just take them. I don't like noise.
2. Live view. I won't use it often, but there have been plenty of situations where it would have come in handy.
3. 6FPS. I do photos of pistol competitions. The 3FPS is nice, but 6FPS would be much, much better. 1/100 of a second is the difference between a decent shot and crap.
4. dual memory cards. yes, I have filled memory cards during shoots, and find changing them a pain in the ass. Petty? Yes, but its a valid enough reason to me for me to bring it up.
5. Weather sealed - I don't like the idea of having to be worried about my camera in a light mist, or light snow.
6. HD video. I realize I said that I wouldn't use it, but lets' be honest here....... if I have it, I will use it, and I will enjoy it.
7. Internal AF motor, and ability to meter with the older manual focus lenses. I like the fact that I can use almost any lens made by Nikon from the late 70's until now, and most aftermarket glass should I choose to go that route. You talk about glass being important..... it is. This will allow me to use many many many options previously unavailable to me with the D3000.
8. There are more, but I think the point is made.
I just find it VERY hard to believe you have outgrown this camera or already think you will soon. lol
I haven't outgrown it. I may never. Fact is the D7000 has many things to offer that the D3000 doesn't regardless of experience or skill. I also think we are missing the most important point here....

I want it.

^^^ my thoughts in BOLD

^^^ My thoughts in red about your thoughts in bold. Now I sound like the jack***. Whodathunkit?

 

[Geaux]

From that response, it seems as if you've already made up your mind. So why ask or ask to be talked out of it? lol

Of course the things you listed would be nice, but you're comparing a 450 dollar camera to a 1400 dollar camera, which isn't very fair lol.

If you got the money to buy a 1400 dollar body and expensive glass, the more power to ya. I don't haha.

 

[Stradawhovious]

So why ask or ask to be talked out of it? lol.

What I'm loking for would be real world negative working experiences with it. Situations where it falls short where it is otherwise advertised as being stong, issues with mechanical failure, software glitches, etc. etc. etc.

Had I known of this board, and asked the same questions about the D3000, I would more than likely have been given a long list of issues from people who both love and hate the model, but it would have given me more ammunition for research and decision making. Where better to do this than a community of shutterbugs?

But by the sounds of it, those who own it love it, those who have reviewed it love it, and many have called it Nikons best non-pro body yet.

Based on what I'm hearing, and what I'm reading it's kind of a no brainer as an upgrade.

 

[Muusers]

So why ask or ask to be talked out of it? lol.

What I'm loking for would be real world negative working experiences with it. Situations where it falls short where it is otherwise advertised as being stong, issues with mechanical failure, software glitches, etc. etc. etc.

Had I known of this board, and asked the same questions about the D3000, I would more than likely have been given a long list of issues from people who both love and hate the model, but it would have given me more ammunition for research and decision making. Where better to do this than a community of shutterbugs?

But by the sounds of it, those who own it love it, those who have reviewed it love it, and many have called it Nikons best non-pro body yet.

Based on what I'm hearing, and what I'm reading it's kind of a no brainer as an upgrade.

But the D7000 is out for a week now, and the D3000 some 6 months. (more?) So there's bound to be people that have had issues with it, especially on the long term.

 

[Derrel]

What are there, like two people here with a D7000?

 

[12sndsgood]

not to mention that those that would likely have any issues with it probably have a mre expensive camera and then your looking at spending even more money lol.

 

[Light Artisan]

I did have a problem with my first unit, something with the shutter not completing a cycle. After exchanging it I have not had any issues with the replacement unit.

There are folks claiming it's soft for focus.

Mine seems OK, 100% crop straight out of the camera (shot in B&W mode).

 

[Stradawhovious]

I did have a problem with my first unit, something with the shutter not completing a cycle. After exchanging it I have not had any issues with the replacement unit.

There are folks claiming it's soft for focus.

Mine seems OK, 100% crop straight out of the camera (shot in B&W mode).

Thanks! This is exactly the kind of stuff I'm looking for. Not enough by itself to talk me out of it, but it will certainly give me more things to research.

 

[Stradawhovious]

What are there, like two people here with a D7000?

Well........... Three now. :mrgreen:

I just got back from the store (yesterday) where I'm pretty sure I bought the last D7000 in the state of MN.

I have to say, I'm impressed with this model. The controls are REALLY well laid out. everything is (to my preferences) where it should be, and is logically laid out and easy to use. The autofocus is fast and precise, and the high ISO performance is fantastic. No significant noise issues until you get up past an ISO of 3200. (at least to me anyways). Obviously these arent the only things I'm impressed with, but the list is long, and I'm tired. I've been futzing with this camera for a few hours now, and have to say I'm impressed, and thrilled with my purchase. When I get around to it, I will be sure to post a handfull of mediocre pictures taken with a fantastic camera to celebrate.

 

[rainking]

Welcome to the D7000 club.

 

[Stradawhovious]

Welcome to the D7000 club.

I don't need to know a secret handshake, or learn how to use a decoder ring, do I? Those weren't addressed in the user manual.

 

[redtippmann]

Just got my D7000 today. I went in to get just the body but I figured I might as well upgrade my 18-55 so I got the 18-105.

I now feel like im cheating when I use it! Its so nice to use!

 

[Light Artisan]

Please learn about and use the U1 and U2 options, it's very handy and easy to change as necessary. It's one of the slickest things I never thought I'd use on the camera!

 

[o hey tyler]

So I came to this thread to help you. You asked for help. Help in talking you out of the Nikon D7000.

Well, I have come to your aid, OP.

DO NOT GET THE NIKON D7000!!!

Hope I talked you out of it. Good luck!

 

[Stradawhovious]

So I came to this thread to help you. You asked for help. Help in talking you out of the Nikon D7000.

Well, I have come to your aid, OP.

DO NOT GET THE NIKON D7000!!!

Hope I talked you out of it. Good luck!

WHEW!!! I'm glad someone had the good sense to do it! I don't know what I would have done without you!!! :hug::