The Coffee House

[snowbear114 46]

Yes, happy dad's day.

Happy Father's Day Hoser Dads!

Happy Father's Day! I worked outside.

I had great Cuban-inspired food and got a wee bit tipsy on sangria and rum.

I'll get to open the (sort of) present tomorrow.

 

[The_Traveler]

Watched 'Episode 6' of American Gods and strangely enough, my wife, who is has a CNS disease, seems to like it. It may be the incredibly interesting photography.

 

[snowbear114 46]

Hello, Lew. I'll have to check it out.

 

[The_Traveler]

Hello, Lew. I'll have to check it out.

Watch from the beginning.

 

[Gary A.]

Evening all. Gary had a very pleasant Father's Day. His daughter and dog came up from San Diego. Weather cooled off into the mid 80's and Gary brisket-ed up Tri-Tip. It was Delish. Amy and Holly just left to go back home, Mary Lou and Gary are watching the sun fade and the solar lights flick on, sipping the last of our wine.


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[vintagesnaps]

The local news this evening was about the young man from here who was just returned from N. Korea, that he passed away this afternoon. I'm glad at least that he got home. They did say his face and appearance seemed more relaxed and peaceful once he was home than when he first arrived, and I suppose that's some comfort to the family. I"m glad at least they were able to be with him.

 

[SquarePeg36 7]

Such a horror at what happened to him over such a trivial infraction. I still can't believe we couldn't get him back sooner. They essentially murdered him.

 

[vintagesnaps]

I guess it being on local news, and seeing a clip of his dad speaking at his high school the other day, it just has brought tears to my eyes. Probably will bring out a lot of different emotions. They said the state dept. had been working on trying to get him home ever since it happened. I guess what can make it tricky is dealing with a regime that we don't have any foreign relations with at all, and not wanting to put at jeopardy the others being held there. They even said something about for us to handle it too assertively or try any military action there could be a risk of them retaliating by taking it out against a neighboring country. I can't even imagine what it must be like there.

 

[tirediron]

Such a horror at what happened to him over such a trivial infraction. I still can't believe we couldn't get him back sooner. They essentially murdered him.

That's the problem; it seems trivial to us, but people forget that there are lots of places in the world where certain things are taken a lot more seriously than they might be in North America. Try getting into a car accident with a Saudi citizen in Riyadh or or spray-painting your name on a sidewalk in downtown SIngapore! People REALLY need to think about where they are and what the local customs and laws are there.

 

[Gary A.]

Such a horror at what happened to him over such a trivial infraction. I still can't believe we couldn't get him back sooner. They essentially murdered him.

I echo Peg. It is very difficult to lawfully punish a country which is pretty much totally isolated and acts without regard to law(s).

 

[vintagesnaps]

I got to thinking, seems so long ago that certain things in history happened, to think there are countries that are still so oppressive. I imagine you wouldn't think something that wasn't much worse than a prank and would have been a misdemeanor at most here, would be so serious in another country. I'm just glad at least that he was back here at home before he died and seemed to be at peace, and his was family able to be with him. Probably gave them some peace of mind.

 

[Gary A.]

We are in a heat wave. Temps hit 91F today. Gary came in from resting outside, soaking up the cool breezes like a tall beer. Gary rarely does nothing. But he lounged in a low slung patio chair, the cool 74F air flowing over him and he closed his eyes. Gary needs a hammock.

 

[table1349]

Such a horror at what happened to him over such a trivial infraction. I still can't believe we couldn't get him back sooner. They essentially murdered him.

I echo Peg. It is very difficult to lawfully punish a country which is pretty much totally isolated and acts without regard to law(s).

There is the problem isn't it, we expect them to conform to our expectations. If we were serious about this we would allow no travel there and cut off all money and materials to them and any country that supports them.

 

[Gary A.]

Such a horror at what happened to him over such a trivial infraction. I still can't believe we couldn't get him back sooner. They essentially murdered him.

I echo Peg. It is very difficult to lawfully punish a country which is pretty much totally isolated and acts without regard to law(s).

There is the problem isn't it, we expect them to conform to our expectations. If we were serious about this we would allow no travel there and cut off all money and materials to them and any country that supports them.

We pretty much have that allready in place. It is China which needs to come to the table and limit their support/trade of N. Korea. China is very reluctant to do so as it is in their 'best interests' to keep N. Korea as a buffer between them and a bustling, capitalistic, democratic S. Korea. The difference between the USA's rule by law, is our government is designed to improve the lives of its citizenry. Whereas, the rule by decree of N. Korea is designed to improve the wellbeing of only one person.