heidirenee
TPF Noob!
Hi all,
I am a first time poster and very interested in wedding photographers views and advice on the following points.
I'm a professional photographer, and my specialty has been weddings for the past two years.
Let's begin the long post!
I am not a 'candid' photographer - i direct and pose, and acknowledge the amount of time i need for my shots by delivering a timeline and list of requirements to a wedding client before their big day. I stress the point that while plans can change on a wedding day, this is my timeline to get my required shots - if it can't be met i'll obviously still work my best, but coverage may be compromised.
HOWEVER - surely i am not the only one that runs into trouble during almost every wedding? I shot a wedding yesterday which seen me receive a text from the brides sister at 10:30pm the evening of the wedding telling me to arrive half an hour late to the grooms (it ended up being less than 30 minutes shooting time for the grooms coverage all up) and also to drive around the videographer for the day as he didn't have a car.
I had met with these people three times to discuss my work, contracts and timelines. I personally visited their house. In the end i was dealing with about three people - the bride and her two sisters.
How do you deal when there's too many 'chiefs' at a wedding? When it ends up being not only cousin Tim involved but also sister Betty and aunty Joan?
My timeline was not followed, and around 20 minutes was wasted photographing the bridesmaids receiving their gifts, simply because i was told to do that. While they have no right to complain when they see the images that there's a lack of bridal portraiture (one of the many things covered in my contract is no guarantee of shots) i feel that they will as they won't remember their complete lack of disrespect to me on the day of the wedding.
How do you cement your style to a client that they too can get a great day of wedding photography coverage, when you show them your most successful and 'on time' wedding? Does it matter how many examples of your work you show them, because at the end of the day it's really up to them to decide if they're still in bed when you rock up to their house on the day of the wedding? And even though you enter a legal agreement with the bride and groom, how do you deal with in laws telling you what photos to take? While contracts cover your ass from further legal action because some people choose not to follow direction, it's incredibly frustrating to see people doubting you and suggesting how to take photos on the day of the wedding - even suggesting what times you should go to each location.
I even had a relative of the bride tell me to 'lift up my game' as i missed the father putting his daughter INTO a car before leaving for the ceremony held half an hour away, although i stressed on the three consult sessions that i would be leaving before them and waiting for them at the ceremony to get father/daughter car shots. And guess what. The father never went with the bride to the ceremony. They were in separate cars and arrived at separate times. I guess this comes back to the many 'chiefs' at a wedding - do you simply be polite and smile when a distant relative is telling you how to do your job, when they were never involved in the consult sessions?
For the photographers who've been doing this for decades - did you find peoples trust grew the longer you worked for? Is it time that cements peoples trust in you?
I look forward to hearing your responses!
I am a first time poster and very interested in wedding photographers views and advice on the following points.
I'm a professional photographer, and my specialty has been weddings for the past two years.
Let's begin the long post!
I am not a 'candid' photographer - i direct and pose, and acknowledge the amount of time i need for my shots by delivering a timeline and list of requirements to a wedding client before their big day. I stress the point that while plans can change on a wedding day, this is my timeline to get my required shots - if it can't be met i'll obviously still work my best, but coverage may be compromised.
HOWEVER - surely i am not the only one that runs into trouble during almost every wedding? I shot a wedding yesterday which seen me receive a text from the brides sister at 10:30pm the evening of the wedding telling me to arrive half an hour late to the grooms (it ended up being less than 30 minutes shooting time for the grooms coverage all up) and also to drive around the videographer for the day as he didn't have a car.
I had met with these people three times to discuss my work, contracts and timelines. I personally visited their house. In the end i was dealing with about three people - the bride and her two sisters.
How do you deal when there's too many 'chiefs' at a wedding? When it ends up being not only cousin Tim involved but also sister Betty and aunty Joan?
My timeline was not followed, and around 20 minutes was wasted photographing the bridesmaids receiving their gifts, simply because i was told to do that. While they have no right to complain when they see the images that there's a lack of bridal portraiture (one of the many things covered in my contract is no guarantee of shots) i feel that they will as they won't remember their complete lack of disrespect to me on the day of the wedding.
How do you cement your style to a client that they too can get a great day of wedding photography coverage, when you show them your most successful and 'on time' wedding? Does it matter how many examples of your work you show them, because at the end of the day it's really up to them to decide if they're still in bed when you rock up to their house on the day of the wedding? And even though you enter a legal agreement with the bride and groom, how do you deal with in laws telling you what photos to take? While contracts cover your ass from further legal action because some people choose not to follow direction, it's incredibly frustrating to see people doubting you and suggesting how to take photos on the day of the wedding - even suggesting what times you should go to each location.
I even had a relative of the bride tell me to 'lift up my game' as i missed the father putting his daughter INTO a car before leaving for the ceremony held half an hour away, although i stressed on the three consult sessions that i would be leaving before them and waiting for them at the ceremony to get father/daughter car shots. And guess what. The father never went with the bride to the ceremony. They were in separate cars and arrived at separate times. I guess this comes back to the many 'chiefs' at a wedding - do you simply be polite and smile when a distant relative is telling you how to do your job, when they were never involved in the consult sessions?
For the photographers who've been doing this for decades - did you find peoples trust grew the longer you worked for? Is it time that cements peoples trust in you?
I look forward to hearing your responses!