Why brag about 70D?

[goodguy]

Give me a t3i and a 70d with the same glass and same lighting and I will produce two pics of the same quality.

Well then this means you have the exact camera you need and you are in your happy place.
Dont worry about other cameras then just go, shoot and be happy!

 

[Josh66]

[...]and touch screen[...]

Touch screen? Seems like a bad idea on a camera where your nose can often be in contact with said screen, lol!

 

[Josh66]

What, exactly, is the point in bragging about your gear?

How else will everyone know how much better you are than they are?

 

[Juga]

[...]and touch screen[...]

Touch screen? Seems like a bad idea on a camera where your nose can often be in contact with said screen, lol!

The camera is designed to disable the screen once the camera is brought up to your face. I had a T4i and it was never an issue.

 

[Josh66]

[...]and touch screen[...]

Touch screen? Seems like a bad idea on a camera where your nose can often be in contact with said screen, lol!

The camera is designed to disable the screen once the camera is brought up to your face. I had a T4i and it was never an issue.

Well, that's good. Otherwise, I could see it becoming an issue, lol!

 

[shaylou]

Well then this means you have the exact camera you need and you are in your happy place. Dont worry about other cameras then just go, shoot and be happy!

How in the world did you get that out of what I said ? That wasn't the point at all. The point is that saying one crop camera is. "Far better" (as was stated) than another crop camera is inaccurate given the fact that the sensor and the focus system are the same. And for the record I don't have either of those cameras.

 

[goodguy]

Well then this means you have the exact camera you need and you are in your happy place. Dont worry about other cameras then just go, shoot and be happy!

How in the world did you get that out of what I said ? That wasn't the point at all. The point is that saying one crop camera is. "Far better" (as was stated) than another crop camera is inaccurate given the fact that the sensor and the focus system are the same. And for the record I don't have either of those cameras.

Sorry I think the 70D is betetr and I agree that if you think that you will get same results on both cameras that means you got the right camera for you and thus you are in photography heaven.
I would go with the 70D.

Well.............actually I would get the D7100 but if I had to choose between a Rebel or the 70D I would go with the 70D.

 

[grafxman]

One reason not to brag about it would be that there are many MUCH better cameras out. Would you brag about a 7d to a guy with a 5D markIII?

Actually I would. I have used the 7D for several years. I recently bought a full frame camera, the 6D. I promptly discovered that there is a paucity of lenses available for the full frame camera compared to to any APSC camera. The 6D is much better in high ISO situations however because of lack of versatile lenses compared to my 7D I often find it very frustrating to use. Other than the noise issue I am much happier with my 7D.

 

[shaylou]

Actually I would. I have used the 7D for several years. I recently bought a full frame camera, the 6D. I promptly discovered that there is a paucity of lenses available for the full frame camera compared to to any APSC camera. The 6D is much better in high ISO situations however because of lack of versatile lenses compared to my 7D I often find it very frustrating to use. Other than the noise issue I am much happier with my 7D.

Sure there are a lot of garbage ef-s lenses that won't work on a ef mount but why would you want to use an inferior lens on a good body? The L lens line covers the focal length and is far better than the ef -s line. (Excluding the 17-55) that's a great lens. Sure you don't get the ridicules focal lengths like 18-200 but who wants that on a full frame anyway . I'm surprised that you even bring this matter up. At the end of the day you get what you pay for and that's why the ef -s line is do much cheaper .

 

[jaomul]

On another note page 7 of all camera manuals states that when one has dropped cash on the particular model the manual represents that you have indeed copyright to bragging rights. So to you all, my camera is the best

 

[Steve5D]

Sure there are a lot of garbage ef-s lenses that won't work on a ef mount but why would you want to use an inferior lens on a good body? The L lens line covers the focal length and is far better than the ef -s line. (Excluding the 17-55) that's a great lens. Sure you don't get the ridicules focal lengths like 18-200 but who wants that on a full frame anyway . I'm surprised that you even bring this matter up. At the end of the day you get what you pay for and that's why the ef -s line is do much cheaper .

I had a Sigma 17-70mm which, if it worked on my 5D, I would still have. It's an EF-S mount and, in my opinion, it outperforms just about anything that Canon produces is the same price range.

You ask why someone would want to use an "inferior" lens. One reason, and it's the first reason anyone considers, is cost. "L" Series lenses are not inexpensive. Yes, they produce wonderful image quality, but that image quality comes at a very deep price. Also, an "EF" designation doesn't necessarily mean that a lens is of super quality. Take a look at the Canon 50mm f/1.8. It's not an "L" Series lens, is under a hundred bucks, and produces perfectly acceptable results. They're not going to blow anyone's skirt up, but they're fine results nonetheless. On the other hand, the 85mm f/1.8 also isn't an "L" Series lens, is also an EF mount, and produces ridiculously fine image quality. It should have a red ring on it.

Your post also suggests that, since you believe a full-frame body is a "good" body, that you believe a crop body is, somehow, inferior. I own both. Both perform equally well in their respective tasks...

 

[Overread19 7]

A lot of garbage efs lenses? Canon only makes something like 9 EFs lenses in their line up and of them most are high quality options.

Also comparing 18-200mm lenses to 70-200mm f2.8 IS L MII lenses is stupid. Of course one is superior to the other in image quality, the price difference is massive as is the features offered. An 18-200mm lens is fantastic as putting a single affordable lens on the camera and doing nearly everything most people will need. Yeah it takes an image quality hit, but its still very usable.

3rd party companies also make a range of good quality EF-s lenes and many of the time they are specifically for the EF's market - offering wider angle (super wide); often offering better zoom ranges (18-55 instead of 24-70mm - and 50-150mm instead of 70-200mm).


I think there's a bit of big sensor elitism going on here and honestly if you're going to play that game you need to be shooting medium format cameras; not tiny 35mm sensor cameras

 

[jaomul]

It's all gotten very serious

 

[grafxman]

Actually I would. I have used the 7D for several years. I recently bought a full frame camera, the 6D. I promptly discovered that there is a paucity of lenses available for the full frame camera compared to to any APSC camera. The 6D is much better in high ISO situations however because of lack of versatile lenses compared to my 7D I often find it very frustrating to use. Other than the noise issue I am much happier with my 7D.

Sure there are a lot of garbage ef-s lenses that won't work on a ef mount but why would you want to use an inferior lens on a good body? The L lens line covers the focal length and is far better than the ef -s line. (Excluding the 17-55) that's a great lens. Sure you don't get the ridicules focal lengths like 18-200 but who wants that on a full frame anyway . I'm surprised that you even bring this matter up. At the end of the day you get what you pay for and that's why the ef -s line is do much cheaper .

Actually the Canon L lens, the 24-105mm macro that came with my 6D, is not particularly sharp. Others have mentioned this. It has an extremely limited zoom range compared to the Sigma 18-250mm macro that I often use on my 7D. It's not useless but nearly so. Unfortunately the other lens I bought for the 6D, a Tamron 28-300mm macro, while sharp enough doesn't like to focus in low light which is where I often find myself inside the museums I photograph. What you apparently find ridiculous is what I find essential. It's what I am used to with the 7D, a zoom with a wide range thus providing great versatility, and is unavailable for the 6D. I stand by every word I stated in my previous post.

 

[Steve5D]

3rd party companies also make a range of good quality EF-s lenes and many of the time they are specifically for the EF's market - offering wider angle (super wide); often offering better zoom ranges (18-55 instead of 24-70mm - and 50-150mm instead of 70-200mm).

What constitutes "better"?