color space issues?

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  1. goodoneian

    goodoneian TPF Noob!

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    i recently installed a new copy of vista on my computer, and while looking through my pictures using the windows photo gallery or w/e the standard image browser is, all of my pictures are way over-saturated compared to how they look in photoshop cs3 and my camera's lcd.

    does anyone know how to fix this? i know there's been similar questions before but i searched it and couldn't find a good answer:meh:

    i can make an example of the images saturation difference if needed
     
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    Big Mike I am Big, I am Mike Staff Member Supporting Member

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    What color space are the images in, while in Photoshop?

    I'd guess that windows is using sRBG but I don't know anything about Vista and it's quirks.

    b.t.w. Don't use the camera's LCD to judge color/exposure.
     
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    my color in photoshop is sRGB. i could be wrong though, seeing as i don't exactly know how to check this

    and i know, i was just stating that the color of the picture in photoshop was near identical as it was on my lcd.
     
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    This is normally the exact opposite of what really happens. It is colour space related but I think from a different side of it. Output space not the working space. Quick questions:

    Open a photo in photoshop, click edit -> assign profile. Make sure the source profile is in sRGB, if it's not find a picture that is for testing.

    1. Do you have a wide gamut display such as some of the larger Dell LCDs? If so then the over saturation is normal for any photo that is viewed in a program that is not fully colour managed (internet explorer) compared to Photoshop.
    2. Is Photoshop giving you the correct output when you open the pictures or is it too over saturated? If this is right then it confirms the above, and you need to use some different software.
    3. Do you have any colour correction software even something as simple as playing with the gamma curve of your video card in the control panel? Or something complicated like a LUT loader that runs when windows starts? There are known compatibility issues with those and Vista's colour management.
    4. Check the display options in control panel and check to make sure the saturation is set at default.
     
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    do you regularly calibrate and profile your monitor(s)?
     
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    1. yes, i have a 24" dell monitor
    2. photoshop was set to just RGB 1998. i opened many photos to see if they all said that, which they did.
    3. no, i don't have anything running like that. my monitor is set completely default as is the color settings in my video card control panel. i also have no programs set to boot when windows starts.
    4. when i go to control panel then color management, the only options i have are adobe sRGB.

    lastly, i have not calibrated my monitor.
     
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    get on it :mrgreen:.

    any colour adjustments you make to your monitor or profiles won't be accurate anyway, until you calibrate. software isn't too expensive. I borrow a friend's Spyder II, and have my eye on this - does monitors, printers, and prints. pretty effin' cool.
     
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    i had a spyder II and actually returned it, because it made my monitor look horrible and all my pictures look completely washed out. and i'm quite savvy with computer software/ hardware so i'm pretty confident i did everything right on it's setup
     
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    You did something wrong, or the particular one was defective. Either way, that's not how it should look and IF you did it all right, then it was defective. But that's a big if.
     
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    well like i said i'm pretty confident in myself that i can follow pretty simple instructions haha. the only thing it appeared to do was up the gamma on my monitor which made it difficult to look at
     
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    maybe try another calibration software, or if you trust your eye, calibrate manually. either way, you're going to need to calibrate.
     
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    I still refuse to believe that if all the Spyder did was up the gamma on his monitor, that a different calibration software would make the difference.

    It was either:
    * user error
    * defective product
     

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