Derrel
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I read f-stoppers occasionally. Links to their more provocative articles wind up in my Facebook stream one way or another. The site is basically a click-bait specialist. They are The New York Post of on-line photo 'zines. As the article begins, " Let’s not kid ourselves, gear does in fact matter. However, does a photographer need top of the line equipment to produce mind-blowing images? Take a look at this collection and decide for yourself."
The piece shows a bunch of photos which are mostly subject-centric. And a bunch of images that have been Photoshopped and Photoshopped HARD. Wayyyyy hard. And that accounts for the "mind-blowing images". I'm familiar with what it's like to shoot with low-end gear. I struggled against low-end gear for about 10 years,then got mid-level gear, and over the last 13 years I have been fortunate to hit middle age, and the ability to own and use some high-end gear. As to the Sigma 10-20mm lens and its price: its PRICE has absolutely NOTHING to do with being low-end; it is an extreme wide-angle...sooooo much more wide-angle than basically anybody had, or was even on the market at a reasonable price, for literally decades. A 15mm rectilinear ultra-wide??? C'mon...that is an ADVANCED lens design. The d-slr with BUILT-IN image developing and a fully-adjustable contrast,saturation,and sharpening engine with 3D color matrix metering and Nikon's Scene Recognition System? And then, Photoshop to create an image that's basically un-recognizable as the original???
Try shooting you junior high school track meets with a 40-year-old and way out of date 1938 Argoflex twin-lens reflex with an uncoated, pre-World War II f/4.5 lens and 1/25 to 1/200, manually cocked shutter with red-window, knob film advance. THAT is what I started my 'serious photography' career with. Is this guy f***ing kidding me? A d-slr and a 10-20mm ultra-wide zoom, and a world-class 85mm f/1.8 Canon EF (a lens I owned for seven years, and am intimately familiar with, BTW).
I'm not angry at the guy, but the article is full of BS. A 10-20mm ultra-wide rectilinear zoom lens is better than the chit NASA sent up with the Space Shuttle crews. These mind-blowing images are good, as far as they go, yes. Nice illustrations. But I want to see a few wildlife images. And some indoor NCAA volleyball shots. And some wedding reception shots. I'd love to see some straight photography, and some photographs, as opposed to heavily-manipulated photo illustrations. So, that's where I was coming from. I KNOW what it is like to be limited by equipment. Try shooting with 12-shot rolls with knob-wind film advance and a hand-tensioned shutter for a few years. Then tell me how bad things are with an 18- to 24-megapixel d-slr and a 600-shot RAW frame memory card.
I "get" the point of the f-stoppers article. But the "proof" shows me more about how much Photoshop is used as a full set of crutches (AND a wheelchair, in some instances!) than it does about how good the shooters were, or how capable a 10-20mm ultra-wide rectilinear zoom lens and the Canon 85/1.8 EF lenses are on a built-in-darkroom-dslr-camera. If this "article" had some text, it would be an article. Instead, it's click-bait. As he says, "Let's not kid ourselves, gear does in fact matter." And then he trots out the Photoshop parade.
The piece shows a bunch of photos which are mostly subject-centric. And a bunch of images that have been Photoshopped and Photoshopped HARD. Wayyyyy hard. And that accounts for the "mind-blowing images". I'm familiar with what it's like to shoot with low-end gear. I struggled against low-end gear for about 10 years,then got mid-level gear, and over the last 13 years I have been fortunate to hit middle age, and the ability to own and use some high-end gear. As to the Sigma 10-20mm lens and its price: its PRICE has absolutely NOTHING to do with being low-end; it is an extreme wide-angle...sooooo much more wide-angle than basically anybody had, or was even on the market at a reasonable price, for literally decades. A 15mm rectilinear ultra-wide??? C'mon...that is an ADVANCED lens design. The d-slr with BUILT-IN image developing and a fully-adjustable contrast,saturation,and sharpening engine with 3D color matrix metering and Nikon's Scene Recognition System? And then, Photoshop to create an image that's basically un-recognizable as the original???
Try shooting you junior high school track meets with a 40-year-old and way out of date 1938 Argoflex twin-lens reflex with an uncoated, pre-World War II f/4.5 lens and 1/25 to 1/200, manually cocked shutter with red-window, knob film advance. THAT is what I started my 'serious photography' career with. Is this guy f***ing kidding me? A d-slr and a 10-20mm ultra-wide zoom, and a world-class 85mm f/1.8 Canon EF (a lens I owned for seven years, and am intimately familiar with, BTW).
I'm not angry at the guy, but the article is full of BS. A 10-20mm ultra-wide rectilinear zoom lens is better than the chit NASA sent up with the Space Shuttle crews. These mind-blowing images are good, as far as they go, yes. Nice illustrations. But I want to see a few wildlife images. And some indoor NCAA volleyball shots. And some wedding reception shots. I'd love to see some straight photography, and some photographs, as opposed to heavily-manipulated photo illustrations. So, that's where I was coming from. I KNOW what it is like to be limited by equipment. Try shooting with 12-shot rolls with knob-wind film advance and a hand-tensioned shutter for a few years. Then tell me how bad things are with an 18- to 24-megapixel d-slr and a 600-shot RAW frame memory card.
I "get" the point of the f-stoppers article. But the "proof" shows me more about how much Photoshop is used as a full set of crutches (AND a wheelchair, in some instances!) than it does about how good the shooters were, or how capable a 10-20mm ultra-wide rectilinear zoom lens and the Canon 85/1.8 EF lenses are on a built-in-darkroom-dslr-camera. If this "article" had some text, it would be an article. Instead, it's click-bait. As he says, "Let's not kid ourselves, gear does in fact matter." And then he trots out the Photoshop parade.