How much does health cost? rant I guess

[terri]

I'm so sorry you have to suffer like this, sweetie.

So you are saying that endometriosis, or any related similar condition, has been absolutely and positively ruled out? It can mask itself in many ways.

 

[Stacy Morin]

I first had a Uterine Ablation, it is only then they found the severe endometriosis. That is why I had a hysterectomy. How can they totally know everything is healthy unless they have a look see. My other word of advice would be to maybe try acupuncture. I know it works wonders for some ladies

 

[JacaRanda]

Medical maryjane; an option that should be considered.

 

[mmaria]

Medical maryjane; an option that should be considered.

have some to share?

 

[mmaria]

I'm so sorry you have to suffer like this, sweetie.

these hugs really help! thank you

So you are saying that endometriosis, or any related similar condition, has been absolutely and positively ruled out? It can mask itself in many ways.

Yes. Everything is just in perfect condition, no endometriosis .... but thanks for trying

I first had a Uterine Ablation, it is only then they found the severe endometriosis. That is why I had a hysterectomy. How can they totally know everything is healthy unless they have a look see. My other word of advice would be to maybe try acupuncture. I know it works wonders for some ladies

yeah... I haven't tried acupuncture and I would like to... I heard that it can really help but in a place I live now I don't have the chance to do acupuncture regularly.
Because it's somewhat similar I'll mention that I had chronic sinus issues/headaches for years and modern medicine didn't help, what did help, amazingly, was acupressure

Did I say: Welcome

 

[mmaria]

Pain killers are interesting. I'm familiar with them because of migraine. ... Others in the family have found that taking a lot of painkiller results in a kind of addiction. You get rebound headaches when you stop taking pills for your headache. I imagine taking frequent painkillers for other conditions would result in a similar situation. Getting off the painkiller is an arduous process and we were warned that once off, you have to deal with the pain without painkillers. Taking painkillers again, apparently, puts you back into the old cycle.

Just to mention again that I'm dealing with this for every month in about 18 years (obviously 2 pregnancies excluded). I've been through different stages of accepting and dealing with this "state". I remember how I used to have almost panic attacks when I start to feel that the pain is coming. I would think about where is the nearest ambulance/hospital so I could get injections-2 shots of different painkiller (in the period when I couldn't take any painkiller orally).
Then, in one period of time I was so sick and tired of medicine/injections that I tried everything I could to get through the pain without it. Friends were with me, helping me, almost cheering for me. Meditating, breathing... I would cry out of pain and after an hour or so someone would help me get to the nearest hospital.

When I was in Tokyo Disneyland I completely forgot about dates and... in one moment alarm, the pain came. I told our coordinator about it and asked if there is ER here or something, I need some medication. We went in some "office" they couldn't give me anything except something that's equivalent to aspirin... "Ok", I thought, this is my chance to go through this without painkillers. I'm in an excellent mood and really don't want to cause any trouble to our teacher or coordinator. I'll give my bestest to go through this." I endured an hour and a half before I fainted out of pain. They transferred me into a hospital. Doctor said that everything is ok and gave me painkillers. So I guess I caused the trouble for them...Everyone was so afraid for me because they didn't hear/see anything similar.

Some engineers are good diagnosticians, others not so much. I imagine it is the same with doctors. The body is complex and there are a lot of external factors, food, drink and environment to mention three general classes. ...Anyway, a long way of saying there are many factors affecting you and your condition. Until you have tracked down the relevant ones, you will suffer. Some doctors may be better at helping than others, modern medicine has some amazing diagnostic programs which can help rule out some factors. Your own careful observation of everything, over several months, might be the most helpful.

I observed everything I could. From the first day I felt the pain till now everything is different. I am a different person with different habits, different food, different way of thinking, different attitude... different .... the pain is still here... and different doctors would just set up the face "I give up"

As someone already said, The Pill comes in many formulations and has changed quite a bit since it was introduced. One formulation may be helpful and another harmful. I don't have any suggestions about determining which might help or harm.

I've realised that I wasn't clear in my op. The pills I took when I was 15 I don't even remember their name. I asked him about pills that were in every flyer in hospitals private or public 2 years ago

 

[JacaRanda]

Medical maryjane; an option that should be considered.

have some to share?

I don't and I wish I did. I have seen first hand how it has helped with pain when sooooooooooooooo many other drugs have not.
It should be an option taken very seriously. Hopefully, you will not have to deal with a bunch of BULL in order to obtain it in whatever form that may be helpful.

 

[mattymags]

I am sorry to hear about your pain, and although I am a male my wife had extremely painful and debilitating cycles. The simplest place to start is also the most obvious and the hardest. We had to totally overhaul our diet, and really pay attention to what we were feeding our bodies. Everything that you put in the gut has a direct influence on your hormones, and the regulation of your body. You need to find a doctor like this, PMS: Getting Your Hormones in Balance So Your Period is Not A Curse! - Aviva Romm
Ever since our switch to eating whole and healthy foods, she does much better, and we both are happier people. It is truly amazing the damage that processed food can do to the body. I am not a doctor but from experience I have cured alot of pain (degenerative disk disease), just by overhauling my diet.
Thats just my two cents..but its so easy that it is worth a shot.

 

[Stacy Morin]

Now onto "lady part" issues: Mmaria, I assume you are taking about heavy, horrible painful menstrual cycles? Please feel free to Private Message Me (is there away to do that on here?) Or ask away on here, I'm not shy! I had a hysterectomy 2 years ago and it was the BEST thing I ever did because I had similar issues! (I have had my children and kept my ovaries Just my two cents into this conversation!

I'm 31. I think I'm too young for that solution.... but... can't say I've never thought about that...

Yes, you are too young for that-darn-I would try acupuncture and Progesterone cream. You can buy it the health food store.

 

[CameraClicker]

In another thread, here, I mentioned I have respiratory allergies. Mould, mildew, ragweed, etc. I used to take antihistamine pills for months at a time. I started going out with my wife in February and switched to her Cantonese diet simply because we were always together, so ate the same food. In September, when my allergies usually made an appearance, there were no symptoms. We took a week long trip to see coloured leaves and by the end of the week my allergies were present. After being home a few days, they cleared up! I thought it was a lack of beef, so I have avoided beef from August to first frost, for 20 years. This January I had a couple of attacks and figured out, it's not the beef, it's the bun! My diet has been very low in wheat, but thanks to frequenting a breakfast restaurant Saturday mornings, I had been consuming much more wheat the last year or so. This allergy season I have been eating some beef and avoiding all wheat -- so far, no symptoms. Wheat is in so much processed food, attempting total abstention has been an exercise in reading ingredient labels. It has meant avoiding cake, cookies, pie, hot dogs, hamburgers, grilled cheese sandwiches, KFC and MacDonald's entire menus, and on and on.

We picked up a book called Wheat Belly from Costco, it's quite the book. It blames wheat for a number of society's ills. And, it corroborates my discovery that wheat affects my allergies. Beyond my allergies, other conditions the author blames on wheat are enough to motivate me to avoid wheat year round. We were going through Costco's book table last weekend and found a book about a Paleo diet, which might be too much for us, though it is filled with wheat free diet recipies, so it caught our attention.

I did a quick search and found this: 6 Reasons Why The Paleo Diet Is Great For Women In the 6 paragraphs of reasons to consider the diet, PMS and cramps are mentioned several times. It might be worth your time to try it for a few months.

 

[snerd]

I can, and will, offer you any of these items if they might possibly be of use in curing what ails ya!

6 fine thread screws, plates and rods from last back surgery.
1 titanium rod and joint from shoulder replacement
If you cannot use them, I'll offer a big and a to a future cure!!

 

[mmaria]

Medical maryjane; an option that should be considered.

have some to share?

I don't and I wish I did. I have seen first hand how it has helped with pain when sooooooooooooooo many other drugs have not.
It should be an option taken very seriously. Hopefully, you will not have to deal with a bunch of BULL in order to obtain it in whatever form that may be helpful.

In my country marijuana is not legalized yet. Doctors just don't want to go in that direction so people who have a cancer f.e have to find some other way to get it. Interesting is that my hb's cousin is a doctor, has cancer and use it
To be honest I've never though about marijuana as a cure for this trouble.... I got to try it.

 

[mmaria]

I am sorry to hear about your pain, and although I am a male my wife had extremely painful and debilitating cycles. The simplest place to start is also the most obvious and the hardest. We had to totally overhaul our diet, and really pay attention to what we were feeding our bodies. Everything that you put in the gut has a direct influence on your hormones, and the regulation of your body. You need to find a doctor like this, PMS: Getting Your Hormones in Balance So Your Period is Not A Curse! - Aviva Romm
Ever since our switch to eating whole and healthy foods, she does much better, and we both are happier people. It is truly amazing the damage that processed food can do to the body. I am not a doctor but from experience I have cured alot of pain (degenerative disk disease), just by overhauling my diet.
Thats just my two cents..but its so easy that it is worth a shot.

I I had been consuming much more wheat the last year or so. This allergy season I have been eating some beef and avoiding all wheat -- so far, no symptoms. Wheat is in so much processed food, attempting total abstention has been an exercise in reading ingredient labels. It has meant avoiding cake, cookies, pie, hot dogs, hamburgers, grilled cheese sandwiches, KFC and MacDonald's entire menus, and on and on.

I quoted both of you because you're talking about diet.
The thing is... I eat healthy. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol ( and I'm sorry for the alcohol part but my stomach can't stand it anymore, not a sip) I haven't been eating any of processed food for years now. I'll rarely drink soda or buy a juice. Almost everything that comes to my kitchen is organic. I can't remember when was the last time I ate fast food or similar. I don't consume a significant amount of sugar...

The thing is, even when I did eat meat/processed food, drink alcohol, smoke, and such the pain was still the same. I haven't noticed any difference.

 

[mmaria]

I can, and will, offer you any of these items if they might possibly be of use in curing what ails ya!

6 fine thread screws, plates and rods from last back surgery.
1 titanium rod and joint from shoulder replacement
If you cannot use them, I'll offer a big and a to a future cure!!

I'll take a big hug and a beer (but you have to drink my beer also )

 

[pgriz]

Maria, pain perception is a brain thing. Just like hiccups come from mixed signals in the vagus nerve, sometimes pain perception is due to cross-signals. I have a cousin who had excruciating pains in her knees and back since she was about 12 or so (she's 42 now). Has been to many doctors, all kinds of specialists, and no-one could figure out why the pain originated (there were no signs of organic disease, no metabolic irregularities, nothing out of the ordinary for a young woman. These bouts of pain were intermittent, and she never was able to identify any set of circumstances or food that triggered an attack. However, the pains went away after her first pregnancy. After a while they returned, and then went away again during and after her second pregnancy. She's on her seventh child now. And she/we still don't know the cause/source of the pains she was feeling before. The best "explanation" she got was the hypothesis by one of the neurosurgeons she visited, that her pain nervous system somehow was getting signals from an unrelated set of nerves, and perceiving those as pain. For now, she seems to be pain-free, but I'm not sure I'd recommend serial baby-making as a cure.