Old cameras but, collector old?

Discussion in 'Collector's Corner' started by xjken99, Jan 10, 2010.

  1. xjken99

    xjken99 TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    cincinnati
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Not sure if this is the right forum for this so I will keep it as short as possible. Back in 1984 when I met my wife she was shooting with a Canon AE-1 program and I decided to get myself an slr. I chose the Canon T-70 and for the next few years we would go out on all day photo shoots. Once the kid came along and careers became more important the camera gear got put aside and most of the pictures we took were the simple point and shoot variety. Fast forward to a few weeks ago when I decided to get the stuff out and give it another try. Much to my suprise everything is in excellent condition and even more suprising still works.

    The AE-1 is mainly a manual camera and all I think it needs is some fresh batteries. The battery that is in the camera still works but, it is at least ten years old, probably older. The real suprise is the T-70, I put a couple fresh double A's and everything works fine. This camera unlike the AE-1 has a seperate internal battery that runs the digital display, film advance and several other functions. This camera is twenty five years old and the internal battery is the original. I went to a local camera shop today to drop off a roll of B+W film and while I was there I asked the guy about replacing the internal battery. His response was that with a camera that age it's not worth changing the battery because the cost is probably more than the camera is worth. He suggested that if I like the camera I should go on ebay and pick up a backup for $40.00 or $50.00. He never did quote me a price for replacing the battery in the one I already have. He then went on to tell me that there is not much interest in film any more and that almost everyone shoots digital now a days ( I am sure he would like to sell me $1000 digital system).

    So now besides feeling like a dinosaur, apparently all my camera gear are also dinosaurs. I like my equipment since I already know how to use so my question is do I (a) use the camera until it dies (b) take his advice and buy another on ebay (c) pay for a new battery even if it's more than the camera is worth?

    This is a casual hobby, I am not going to make a career out of this and at this point investing in a whole new system is out of the question.

    I am sorry if this is the wrong forum for this. If it is would one of the moderators please more it to where it belongs. Thanks
     
  2. c.cloudwalker

    c.cloudwalker TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    5,394
    Likes Received:
    405
    Location:
    An American in Europe
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Yes it seems like this is the wrong forum but only because you asked :lol: I never pay much attention as many threads are in the wrong forums anyway. It will get moved if it is that important.

    Now, to answer your more important question. If the internal battery seems to be dead, talk to a repair shop. I find batteries for older cameras than yours so it shouldn't be a problem. Some photo stores should not be trusted. I won't mention names but some places hire people who barely know that there was such a thing as film :lmao:

    Buying a back up on ebay won't help you much as you have no way of knowing how old that internal battery would be!
     
  3. jbylake

    jbylake Dodging the Men in Black Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    729
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    State of Confusion.
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    Don't know who's pullin who's chain here, but I'd stay away from that camera shop. I own, and shoot reguarly, 2 A1's and 2 AE-1's. Replacement batteries are about $3 or 4 bucks. You can get them anywhere, from radio shack to ebay, and everything in between. Just google them, pull out your plastic, and they'll send you all you want. Sounds to me like someone wants to sell you a digital camera. A nice one, and a couple of nice DSLR lenses will cost you significantly more than a "couple of batteries", and your camera, while not exactly worth a whole lot, is still worth many times the couple of batteries that you might buy.

    J.:lol:

    Edit..PX28 (newer replacement designation) $3.75 each or a strip of 5 for $15.00. Heck, if I remember, I got one from Walgreen's several months ago. Now, you have to decide if your camera (and associated lenses, accessories, etc.) is worth that much or not.
     
    Last edited: Jan 10, 2010
  4. Battou

    Battou No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    May 10, 2007
    Messages:
    7,997
    Likes Received:
    26
    Location:
    Slapamonkey, New York
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    You feel like a dinosaur with your equipment....HA. My every day camera predates even that AE-1p. Don't let anyone convince you that your equipment is obsolete and worthless, That old Canon film equipment is perfectly acceptable for your needs. It burns my ass when people convince people that what they need is thousands of dollars worth of digital equipment, especially people like you and I who are just in it for the hobby. As for your T-70, I would say shoot it till it dies and then replace it with a camera that is less sophisticated like perhaps another AE-1p or even the standard AE-1. This way you won't have to worry about internal bateries and whatnot. The AE-1 the battery it requires is still readilly available at your local drugstore so there is nothing to worry about there.

    If you want to see samples from the older Canon equipment and FD glass just say the word, I have plenty.

    Enjoy your equipment, shoot your film at your own pace and process it at your convienience and have fun with it.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  5. jbylake

    jbylake Dodging the Men in Black Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2009
    Messages:
    729
    Likes Received:
    35
    Location:
    State of Confusion.
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    :lol:

    Yep, with the advent of digital, all those Nikon's and Canon's will no longer take the same quality of pictures, that they would "back in the day"....

    The Camera god's decreed it...:lmao::lmao::lmao:

    J.
     
  6. xjken99

    xjken99 TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    cincinnati
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    I have already replaced the battery in the AE-1p but, as I mentioned it's the wifes and I have never used it. Not a big deal since she still has the manual. Since I have been out of the loop for a while most of the shops I went to are now gone so it's more a matter getting new connections. Thanks for the responses your insight helps.
     
  7. c.cloudwalker

    c.cloudwalker TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    5,394
    Likes Received:
    405
    Location:
    An American in Europe
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    I would hope Cinci is big enough to actually have a real photo store but even those can sometimes be iffy. They, like everybody else, sometimes need to hire new people who will take a while to learn their stuff. And sometimes they just want to sell you a new camera :(

    Until, that is, you have a relationship with them. I still use the same store that I started with years ago even though I am about a 10 hr drive away :lol:
     
  8. Mitica100

    Mitica100 Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    9,746
    Likes Received:
    42
    Location:
    Ahwatukee, AZ
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Talk about old cameras??? I shoot film with a 1934 Leica IIIa still perfect after 75 years! Keep your Canons, batteries are easy to find and replace. And most of all, have fun with your 'old' cameras.
     
  9. compur

    compur No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2008
    Messages:
    2,723
    Likes Received:
    400
    Location:
    L.A.
    The T-70 only requires 2 AA batteries. As far as I know there is no other
    battery in the camera (except possibly for a data back or other accessory).

    So, he thinks 2 AA batteries cost more than $40-$50 ?????


    A familiar song which can be safely ignored. There are still lots of us film
    fans around and Kodak, Fuji and others still sell millions of dollars of film
    every year. Plus, film photography is currently undergoing a resurgence
    of interest. I attend camera shows regularly (which feature mostly vintage
    film cameras) and attendance and sales are definitely up. Ilford and other
    film manufacturers/sellers have also reported increased film sales in 2009
     
  10. usayit

    usayit No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2003
    Messages:
    9,523
    Likes Received:
    344
    Location:
    North New Jersey, United States of America
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    Isn't that amazing??? and not just cameras. Well made stuff decades old still in operation. I just saw on TV that most of the Whitney Cotton Gins in operation today are over 100 years old.

    I doubt any modern product with fancy circuit boards will still be in operation after even 25.


    Working the IT field always surrounded by modern computer makes me even more appreciative of the quality of old designs.
     
  11. Mike_E

    Mike_E No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2007
    Messages:
    5,327
    Likes Received:
    264
    Location:
    The Upper West Side of Mississippi (you have no i
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    That kid is obviously not old enough to remember the song Don't Worry, Be Happy . :)
     
  12. Dwig

    Dwig TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2009
    Messages:
    1,261
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Key West FL
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    Incorrect ! ! ! All of these functions are "run" solely by the AA batteries.

    There is a small internal "data backup" battery that is used to power the electronic memory, which "remembers" the current frame number and a few other electronically set settings, when the AA batteries are being changed or otherwise removed from the camera.

    Virtually all modern cameras have this type of battery. Some are expendable batteries that need to be changed every 5-8 years and others are rechargeable, being recharged from the main battery. When these batteries fail (even the rechargeable ones will eventually fail to hold a decent charge) they either need to be replaced or you need to understand that changing the main batteries will reset all camera settings that don't have dedicated calibrated dials (e.g. changing batteries may reset the camera to Program exposure mode, frame 0, EV+-0, ...).

    Most cameras that have these data backup batteries place the battery where only minor disassembly is required. They can generally be replaced for a reasonably minor price by a competent technician. The T-70, I believe, uses a CR-1220 lithium battery for this purpose.

    Canon T70 Camera - Part III
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page
camera collectors cincinnati
,
camera collectors forum
,
canon camera collectors
,
canon t70 internal battery
,
canon t70 internal battery replacement
,
collector old camera
,
collectors of old cameras
,

old camera collectors

,
replace lithium battery canon t70
,
the casual camera collector