So I found out why you might *not* want your D300 in 14bit mode...

Discussion in 'Beyond the Basics' started by manaheim, Jul 15, 2008.

  1. manaheim

    manaheim Jedi Bunnywabbit Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2005
    Messages:
    14,394
    Likes Received:
    3,261
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    I was taking pictures of my daughter jumping into the pool today and figured I'd try to get a quick action series...

    -click-
    <delay>
    -click-
    <delay>
    -click-
    <delay>

    I was like "Good god my camera has died! What do I do?!?!!"

    Then I was like "oh waaaaaait a second..." (switches back to 12 bit)

    -clickclickclickclickclickclick-

    The woman sitting in the chair next to me thought I was on crack taking 40 pictures of the concrete in front of me. :lol:
     
  2. Moglex

    Moglex TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2008
    Messages:
    578
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Whitstable
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    If you do want to photograph concrete, it's always worth going the extra mile to get that perfect shot! :mrgreen:
     
  3. prodigy2k7

    prodigy2k7 No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,665
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    California, USA
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    Are you sure its the bit thats making the delay? What camera btw? Also, your memory card must be fast enough since its probably storing a larger image.
     
  4. djrichie28

    djrichie28 TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2008
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    7
    Location:
    Waterloo, ON
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    You nailed it, it says in the manual that the fps drops dramatically when shooting larger bit Raw format.
     
  5. Overread

    Overread has a hat around here somewhere Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 1, 2008
    Messages:
    23,099
    Likes Received:
    3,765
    Location:
    UK - England
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    And to be honest 14bit to 12bit you probably cannot tell any difference in quality
     
  6. manaheim

    manaheim Jedi Bunnywabbit Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2005
    Messages:
    14,394
    Likes Received:
    3,261
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    I was going to play with the "sturdier" image for post-processing.

    That's quite interesting... a drop wouldn't surprise me, but that was amazing. Esp. since I figured the buffer would still be a significant part of the speed of the camera... must just be that much more coming off the sensor. I suppose 2 bits times 12 megapixels... that is quite a bit(s)!.

    Well, I turned it off and it went back to normal, so I'm pretty sure. :) It's a Lexar Pro 300x.

    hahahahaha...
     
  7. Garbz

    Garbz No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    9,713
    Likes Received:
    203
    Location:
    Brisbane, Australia
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    As a matter of interest can you tell me if the buffer itself fills faster in 14bit mode? This doesn't sound like it's buffer related since it will still burst out a few frames at full speed. Plus 2 bits would not make the difference between 9+ (I say plus because I can only imagine the D300 supports at least the same buffer capacity as the D200 for RAW), and 1 frame.

    Sounds to me like an internal bandwidth issue. When you consider the data moving around that doesn't surprise me at the least.
     
  8. manaheim

    manaheim Jedi Bunnywabbit Staff Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2005
    Messages:
    14,394
    Likes Received:
    3,261
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    I don't know that I could say faster, but I seem to recall it showed that the buffer would hold fewer pictures. It would be a little hard to say faster just because its taking bigger pictures at a significantly slower rate (like I would guess around 1/2 its usual speed).

    If you are super curious, I can try to time it tonight when I go out shooting.
     
  9. kundalini

    kundalini Been spending a lot of time on here!

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2007
    Messages:
    13,601
    Likes Received:
    1,929
    Location:
    State of Confusion
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos NOT OK to edit
    This may help.

    Reference: bythom

     
  10. prodigy2k7

    prodigy2k7 No longer a newbie, moving up!

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2008
    Messages:
    1,665
    Likes Received:
    22
    Location:
    California, USA
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    dpreview.com says:

    &#8226; With built-in battery: up to 6 fps
    &#8226; With AC adapter or MB-D10 pack and batteries other than EN-EL3e: up to 8 fps
    &#8226; 12-bit RAW at full speed, 14-bit RAW only 2.5 fps
     
  11. gryphonslair99

    gryphonslair99 Been spending a lot of time on here!

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2006
    Messages:
    11,441
    Likes Received:
    2,100
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas, USA
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    Huh, My 40D does 6.5fps with or with out the grip or AC adapter in 14 bit raw. The 1D MIII does 10fps with or with out the grip or AC adapter in 14 bit raw.

    Must be a Nikon thing.:D
     
  12. MarcusM

    MarcusM TPF Noob!

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    1,236
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    St. Paul, MN, USA
    Can others edit my Photos:
    Photos OK to edit
    That's awesome!!

    You should have told her you were taking action shots of ants...you wanted to be sure not to miss the perfect pose.
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

12 bit vs 14 bit