I've seen it on a couple of threads about camera purchase and the like. I have been lusting after the D80 with 18-135 are you saying the lens is not good? Its nikons own? Surely they don't put bad lenses on their gear, if you are suggesting the lens will not show the cameras potential how is this good for Nikon? If you get 'better glass' how much more are we talking about and who makes 'better glass'? What do I look for?