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Hello,

cv-19 crisis sucked, but at least no vacation and no money spending in restaurants and pubs caused that savings increased .. I am now about to upgrade my equipment. I am aiming towards FX. Because I am not a Rockefeller I need to consider the price so I decided to go with Nikon-F because of plenty of available lenses on the market for a fair price (Vs a totally overpriced Nikon-Z and few lenses on the market) .. My idea is to build a holy trinity (or similar) set for FX with focal lengths 14-24, 24-70 and 70-200, all of that ideally in f/2.8 .. I have following options

1) new (or "almost" new) Sigma Art line
2) Tamron lenses (are about the same price as Sigma)
3) used Nikon lenses

Based on the reviews the Sigma and Tamron lenses have their own flaws, specifically Sigma lenses are in general being accused that IQ derogates with AP wide open and Tamron lenses are often being accused that they differ piece by piece (2/5 lenses are usually optically worse, 1/5 is usually better than average) and Nikon lenses are very expensive so I will have to buy used ...

what are your thoughts please ? what would you suggest, what would you do, what strategy you'd follow if in my shoes ?

thanks for the input and regards, dan
 

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I've used sigma 1.4 art for a few years now, mainly at weddings. It's very sharp but it does misfocus sometimes as people say. Still a good value for money.
 
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I have the first two zooms as Canon L lenses. But I do have three sigma art primes and they are some of my favorite, sharpest lenses!
 
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You don't say what you shoot so it's hard to make a recommendation. The term "holy trinity" regarding nikon lenses makes me cringe. The only hole it make is in your wallet. Want great glass for a good price, primes. And realize there is more to a lens than sharp. We don't buy wine on the basis of alcohol content nor should we on sharpness. Micro contrast eliminates muddy shadow areas that lenses with 14-22 pieces of glass create. Every piece of glass in the tube sucks up light and most aren't coated so reflect even more. Primes can have fewer elements. Think Zeiss or voigtlander manual focus. If you think you can't manually focus, look in the lower L corner of a Nikon viewfinder. There are 2 arrows pointing at each other, the lit one tells you which way to focus and a circle appears between them when focus is nailed. It happens while auto focusing too. I shoot nikon, d 700 I have had for 12 years and a d850. I am a portraitist so a 35 zeiss distiagon 2.0. A zeiss 85 1.4. 6 elements. This lens blows the doors off nikon and sigma. I have a zeiss 100 makro planar but don't recommend it. The nikon 105 has auto focus. But instead, I have the 135 dc. 7 elements. The 180 2.8, 8 elements not 22 like the holy ghost 70-200 with TWENTY TWO hunks of glass. $450 used like new. If you shoot b&w, it is only contrast and 22 elements will give you muddy shadows. Bokeh in all those primes, fantastic. I saw a shot taken with nikons new 105 for 2 grand, and the terrible bokeh literally made me nauseous. Color rendition, well, they have been making the 135 and 180 since 1994 unchanged for a reason. Pick up a 36 mp d310, a 35, 85 and 135 for the cost of "the father and son." Check the image quality on their flickr pages. And the older lenses can be used on 35mm film camera. The 70-200 I used to use for weddings/events, sold it and the 135 weighs a fraction and I can crop 46 mp down to 200 mm with pixels to spare. That lens used to kill me all day on a body over my shoulder. If you want an auto focus 35 the Nikon D lens is only a couple hundred again, low element count. And the glass in the older zeiss, lead crystal no longer used because of environmental bs. Zeiss still uses it.
 

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