That's exactly my sentiment. "Birders" are people who are experts on bird id, who love watching birds and have awesome binoculars for viewing them from a distance, but don't necessarily ever take a picture of the birds they see. Birders can recognize a bird by the sound it makes, they can tell what subspecies it is and all that. *I*, on the other hand, am a Bird Photographer. I take pictures of the lovely birds, and THAT is what attracts me to them. I'd have little interest in them, if they didn't make for a good photograph. I *am* trying to learn about them, and at least recognize them by sight, if not by sound, but that's because I want to know about what I'm taking pictures of.