Adult Subforum

[manaheim]

wow.

hahahaha...

 

[Kazooie]

Well that's jsut nasty.

Just kidding. Pretty intresting about the veiws you guys have on this.

 

[Josh66]

Pretty intresting about the veiws you guys have on this.

I, for myself anyway, say that in art - anything goes. That view is obviously not shared by the owners of this forum. That is their decision to make...




You make the rules in your house...

 

[KmH]

- but isn't it a little unfair to block someone from their own thread?

Not really, because the thread starter doesn't own the thread. Though a member can edit their posts, they don't own their posts either, which is why TPF staff have the ability to edit them, or even delete them entirely.

On some photography forums, posts can only be edited for a short time after being posted. Once that time period has expired, the edit option disappears as a choice the member has.

Since the minimum age for TPF members is 13 years old, TPF admin applying some restraint seems entirely appropriate. No doubt 13 years olds make up a distinct minority of TPF members, but there is no age limit for non-member visitors to TPF. And don't forget that way more non-members visit TPF than members do.

 

[Josh66]

So, you don't have a problem with hiding content from the person that provided said content?

If that is the forum policy, why join? Why pay? Why continue to post?

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Just thought I should add that you CAN NOT edit your posts, once they are moved to a section you do not have access to.

And every day I wonder more and more why I waste my time here...

 

[Ernicus]

In an online community you can never please everyone. It's impossible. You have to think of the whole, not the few. It sucks at times, but it is the way it is. I used to run a forum on my site so I know what a pain in the ass it is. Once you try to please one person, you piss off a hundred. They really have to be that way.

...and there are lots of kids viewing, and some folks may not want their kids seeing such things. We won't get into parenting...please....lol.

as keith stated...check out the viewers vs members now and then.

There are currently 1378 users online. 102 members and 1276 guests

 

[Josh66]

Well, it wasn't always that way. And you know what - **** the kids. If parents don't want their kids seeing stuff on the internet, they should supervise their ****ing kids.

It is not my obligation to only post PG-13 posts.


Yeah, viewers vs. members - doesn't matter. Viewers are the customer, members are the product. There is nothing more than that to it.

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The admin obviously cares more about the viewer (customer) than the members of the forum (the product being sold). It has been clear ever since ownership changed hands. I should have never came back when I left the first time...

 

[o hey tyler]

Well, it wasn't always that way. And you know what - **** the kids. If parents don't want their kids seeing stuff on the internet, they should supervise their ****ing kids.

It is not my obligation to only post PG-13 posts.

Yeah, viewers vs. members - doesn't matter. Viewers are the customer, members are the product. There is nothing more than that to it.

Quoted for real ****ing talk.

 

[Josh66]

I think I'm done being a product... Anyone that gives a **** knows where to find me...

 

[Ernicus]

all this hostility 'cause a dead body picture got moved? I guess I missed a cool picture. lol

I wasnt taking sides just so ya know...just stating that I know its a ***** to deal with running a forum having been there.

Does this mean you're not playing in fight club anymore? :-( it was just starting to get more people playing.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I think I'm done being a product... Anyone that gives a **** knows where to find me...

Yup!

On Facebook.

Where users are a product delivered to advertisers!

Oh, wait, sorry. That doesn't help your argument, does it?

 

[Overread]

So, you don't have a problem with hiding content from the person that provided said content?

I hope you take the time to re-read my earlier reply - from my point of view the moving of threads into the adult section was to preserve the content and retain the conversation - as I said, in hind sight, the inability of the member (if the members thread that is moved is not a subscriber) to view the thread once it was moved would suggest strongly that a change in the policy toward locking (and removing the photo content) would be preferable.

KmH's reply - as I read it - is simply stating the legal and terms and conditions background to the site. Those are the same TC that you will encounter on pretty much every Vbulletin forum (and pretty much every single other forum out there). Yes it could be abused to hell and back again - but I hope that the moderators here on TPF have showed that we at least make an effort not to abuse them.


As for the subjects - we can't appease everyone. However we do do what we can - we've brought back a host of subjects that were originally removed from posting on the forums through re-opening the subscribers section. This allows users to post their more adult content if they so choose, whilst also allowing TPF to remain a family friendly site in accordance with the site owners desires. Yes the majority of the population here is older, but that does not negate nor mean that younger members are not welcome (heck I wish we could get more on the site to be honest - I've known some great younger photographers and other forums which have active younger generation populations).

There will always be a degree of moderation of content on any forum - art might be free of restraints, but forums are not and the forums here have always been about the forum and trying (our best) to build the community first and the photography second. If that means we have to restrict access to certain, more adult, topics then so be it we will

 

[yerlem]

I never got a chance to see the dead person picture in question, but for what I understand it wasn't really a dead person. I don't really understand where the line is drawn; how are the sexy women and budoir shots allowed, but a staged dead or some blood not? I understand the girls are clothed, but parent's probably wouldn't want their 13 yo kids looking at that, right? Neither is it safe for work, strictly speaking. I am not, by any means, attempting to have more content be classified as taboo, but I wonder if it wouldn't be simpler to have an adult section where adult member can access with a password PMd by a forum moderator.

 

[KmH]

However we do do what we can - we've brought back a host of subjects that were originally removed from posting on the forums through re-opening the subscribers section. This allows users to post their more adult content if they so choose, whilst also allowing TPF to remain a family friendly site in accordance with the site owners desires. Yes the majority of the population here is older, but that does not negate nor mean that younger members are not welcome (heck I wish we could get more on the site to be honest - I've known some great younger photographers and other forums which have active younger generation populations).

The bottom line is '"You can't please all of the people, all of the time." and there will always be some 'churn' for a wide variety of reasons.

I think I'm done being a product...

Well happy trails, and adios there Tonto.