Spawned by @Dany and @IanG, I went to an Antique Market (which I don't normally do) ... cause they really find some interesting stuff ... I was expecting to find very over priced stuff (and most of the cameras were) ... I lucked out at a junk pile. Kodak Retina II type 142 in pretty good shape ... hmm, nice German camera. Second version after the failure of the first one with the faulty winding arm. Kodak Retina by Dennis, on Flickr It should clean up nice.