Any sense to upgrade from 60D to full frame for better image quality ?

[Ivo]

On the other hand, sometimes I cannot get close enough with my flagship lens Canon 70-200 2.8 IS II because of the APS crop factor ... so full frame would be an advantage to use this marvellous lens at normal distance ...

If you can't get close enough to the subject at 200mm with a crop sensor then the fullframe will be a disadvantage because you'll be capturing more edge, so the 200mm will feel like a shorter focal length on the fullframe.

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I meant it opposite - I have to go sometimes rather far from the object to be able to capture it with 70-200 (I cannot get very close sometimes)

 

[Overread19 7]

Ahhhh gotcha! Sounds like you need a 24-70mm then
Or one of those 50-150mm lenses.

I will admit when I have the 70-200mm on my camera (7D so crop sensor too) I do sometimes feel that 70mm is just a touch long; esp when out with family and the like. A 24-70mm or a 24-105mm would be a likely more suitable choice.

 

[Ivo]

I have Tokina 11-16 + Sigma 17-50, so I am taken care even in those ranges But often I like the masterly touch of Canon 70-200 and for that I have to step backwards a bit

 

[Overread19 7]

It is a great lens I won't argue against that

 

[shaylou]

I went from a 600D to a 5DmrkIII and saw the image quality jump way up. I shot the same thing and put the two images next to each other . The 5D was much sharper but mostly the colors were much more vivid.

 

[Ivo]

Would 70D be a step up from 60D ?

Edit: I studied all the info, reviews, comparisons etc and just ordered D70 and put D60 on sale

 

[goodguy]

Would 70D be a step up from 60D ?

Edit: I studied all the info, reviews, comparisons etc and just ordered D70 a put D60 on sale

Yes I think it will be a fairly big step up.
The 60D while old is still a good camera but the 70D is brand new using new technology and overall I think you will se an improvement in performance.
Congratulation on your new camera and enjoy it

 

[Ivo]

I think so ... especially for videos (which I often do) , it is a big upgrade. One day I will certainly buy 5D mark III, but it would also mean getting 24-70 new lens etc., while I have already quite great collection of lens now ... I will refer tomorrow how I feel about 70D

 

[goodguy]

I think so ... especially for videos (which I often do) , it is a big upgrade. One day I will certainly buy 5D mark III, but it would also mean getting 24-70 new lens etc., while I have already quite great collection of lens now ... I will refer tomorrow how I feel about 70D

Yes I would like to hear how you like your new camera.
And for new lenses, well consider buying the lenses used, it will help cut costs and still get you the glass you want.

 

[Ivo]

So I have 70D for 3 days already and I must say I am happy with this upgrade. It is in all the respects better than 60D. I really enjoy it ...

 

[shaylou]

I went from a crop to 5DIII and one of the first shots I took blew me away. It was of a place I shoot at all the time. See for yourself. If you follow my flickr link and scroll down the page till you come to a pic of a amusement park on a peer over the water. It's a night shot and the colors are reflecting in the water. Then go down a little more and look at the same pic with the crop camera. You will know what I'm talking about as soon as you see it. Yes the crop shot is a better shot but we are talking about iq. Sorry for not posting them here but it's very late and I do not have time. So I think this answers your question.

 

[shaylou]

Image quality is almost entirely a function of photographer knowledge and skill. Use of light is a area of expertise that significantly affects image quality.

I totally disagree. Given the same controlled lighting situation the image quality has nothing to do with the photographer if the shot is in focus. You take one pro photographer and give him a entry level and a pro body and you are saying that the I.q will be the same from both bodies because the photographer was the same. Sorry but that's not even close to being acurate .

 

[shaylou]

I went from a crop to a full frame and I see a lot of difference in the I.q . What cameras did y'all use to compare that you are not seeing the difference?

 

[shaylou]

I upgraded from a 60D to 5D3 a year ago for two main reasons...High ISO capabilities for low light, no flash work, and absolute drop-dead sharp focusing...which took me a while to get used to. The extra quiet shutter mode is a nice 'freebie' as well, since I do a lot of my photography at non-wedding church events. Reason #4...the ability to MFA my lenses. Although none of my lenses were out by more than + or - 5, the improvement was noticeable, especially when pixel peeping. Being able to MFA each end of the zoom lens ranges surprised me, as I figured they'd be the same. My only sort-of complaints about the 5D3 is the loss of the swivel screen and the somewhat unexpected size & weight differential compared to the 60D. As for IQ, I had no complaints with the 60D. My only issue was noise at ISO 3200 and up. Shooting with all L lenses on the 60D has the advantage of using only the center area of the projected images from the lens...less distortion, CA, etc. I -did- notice, however, my 16-35 f2.8L gets a lot less use with the 5D3 than the 60D as the 24mm end of the 24-105 is 'wide enough' on the 5D3, where as I needed the 16mm end of the 16-35 to get an FOV of a theoretical 25mm lens. The first shot was with my 60D - 24-105 f4L at 70mm, f4, 1/100, ISO 1600. <img src="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=60916"/> This one's with the 5D3, same 24-105 f4L at 105mm, f4, ISO 3200, 1/40th <img src="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=60917"/> And lastly, 5D3 with 135 f2L wide open (what else?), ISO 3200 at 1/320 <img src="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=60918"/> I am more than satisfied with what I can do with the 5D3 that the 60D couldn't. Now all I have to do is finish paying off the credit cards!

Agreed. I upgraded from a t3i and couldn't be happier. I recently came across a 7d that was never used and so cheap I had to buy it. Great camera but the other day I walked into a bar with a band and of course the light was low. I had the 7d set up on a wide angle so I grabbed it. The iso was getting to 3200 and above and I could see the drop in image quality from the camera. I switched to my 5D3 and at the same iso the iq was great. Not to mention how much easier it was to lock focus. I would say you need to actually try it in a real situation to see the Difference

 

[fokker]

I bought a 5D2 a few years back because I thought I 'needed' it. No question it's been an awesome camera, but after picking up a cheap used 60D recently as a spare body I was surprised to find myself using the 60D more often than the 5D lately, due to the small size, swivel screen (handy!) and the different lens options it gives me. Outright image quality, I don't really know the 5D is probably better, but pixel peeping is a waste of time as far as I'm concerned, I'm a big picture guy to hell with a little bit of noise here and there.