Anyone else not so crazy about photoshop?

[Trever1t]

OP you seem to have your mind set and that makes this thread pointless and argumentive. Don't use PS then, I don't care.

 

[e.rose]

I smacked her hand until it started glowing and told her if she moved, I'd be makin' her face glow next!

 

[Gaerek]

Photoshop is a tool to be used however the photographer (read: Artist) wishes to use it. If you choose not to use it, because it's "cheating" that's your choice. But that would be like trying to build a house without a hammer. It's certainly possible, but it's going to be much harder to accomplish, and the result will be terrible.

Hahahaha so any photos that don't go into photoshop are terrible? Wow so all photos before photoshop came out must be tormenting to look at. (and there is definitely things photoshop can do that they couldn't do in the darkroom)

I think you missed the part where he said if you shoot RAW then it must have PP otherwise it looks awful.

This. ^^^^

Reading comprehension > You

You also missed the part where I said that your camera processes each photo you take. Guess what, if you shoot film, the place you get your film developed also processes your image. There is no such thing as a photo that is real. A photo is a 2d representation of a 3d world at a specific moment in time. Try making photos without any processing in them, and let's see how far you get...

A flash is a tool.
A lens filter is a tool.
A tripod is a tool.
Interchangable lenses are tools.
Photoshop is a tool.
You, sir, are a tool.

 

[clemaire]

Sorry for offending you by my refusal to use photoshop lol. I'm so foolish

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

So, do you just stick your memory card right into the printer, and print your images?

 

[Gaerek]

Sorry for offending you by my refusal to use photoshop lol. I'm so foolish

No offense at all. You're just another noob who thinks you know better than those of us who've been doing this for years. We see your kind here dozens of times per week. It's ok, when I first went digital, I took a stand against post processing, just like you. Then I realized I was being stupid, and wised up. Don't want to use photoshop? Doesn't bother me at all. But good luck with your photography!

 

[e.rose]

Am I the only one to ask this?

I'm GENUINELY curious... if you think your work is so much more brilliant without the use of photoshop... can I see some examples? I'm not even trying to be snarky... I just want to see the skill level of the person we're talking to here.

Your photos MIGHT be brilliant... they might not be. But they COULD be... but I won't know that until I see them... sooooo... can I see 'em?

 

[spacefuzz]

I agree, would love to see some shots

 

[kasperjd4]

Get over it. I hope you know that photoshop was developed to recreate things you do with film. Are you saying you should never edit film either? So people like Ansel Adams & Robert Frank are cheaters?? EVERYONE edits their photos in one way or another.

Do you shoot in JPEG?? Your camera is already editing your photos for you.

The first time I ever used film I *edited* it before i even developed the negatives by pushing the film.

[h=1]“Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships.” - Ansel Adams[/h]

 

[Malone]

You, sir, are a tool.

Maybe I'm taking this out on context, but I find this hilarious. :lmao:

 

[Gaerek]

You, sir, are a tool.

Maybe I'm taking this out on context, but I find this hilarious. :lmao:

No, it's meant to be taken exactly the way you took it.

 

[lyonsroar]

Alas,
I have nothing witty to say.

 

[clemaire]

Am I the only one to ask this?

I'm GENUINELY curious... if you think your work is so much more brilliant without the use of photoshop... can I see some examples? I'm not even trying to be snarky... I just want to see the skill level of the person we're talking to here.

Your photos MIGHT be brilliant... they might not be. But they COULD be... but I won't know that until I see them... sooooo... can I see 'em?

I never said anything about my work being brilliant. What I was getting at is that in my experience (which really isn't much) PS seemed that way to me. I was wondering if people felt the same, and I guess not. Maybe it was just a poor experience in the class i took. Please keep in mind I'm new at this. if you really want to see some pics I took, I have some from earlier today on my thread asking for critiques.

 

[e.rose]

Maybe it was just a poor experience in the class i took.

I'm 100% certain that's what it was.

I understand your frustration about people teaching photoshop *as* photography... because it's not a replacement for it. I had a rant not too long about about someone trying to do that to me while I was looking at applying at schools last year (and I have since then decided against that). However, as everyone has said, photoshop is a *tool* *for* your photography.

It was just a bad class you took if it made you feel that they were trying to replace actual photographic technique entirely with photoshop. The more you do this, and the more you learn about photography *and* photoshop, the more you'll grow to appreciate what it can do and you'll be able to use the tool tastefully and to your liking, to develop, yet keep your photos "real".

 

[clemaire]

I'm 100% certain that's what it was.

I understand your frustration about people teaching photoshop *as* photography... because it's not a replacement for it. I had a rant not too long about about someone trying to do that to me while I was looking at applying at schools last year (and I have since then decided against that). However, as everyone has said, photoshop is a *tool* *for* your photography.

It was just a bad class you took if it made you feel that they were trying to replace actual photographic technique entirely with photoshop. The more you do this, and the more you learn about photography *and* photoshop, the more you'll grow to appreciate what it can do and you'll be able to use the tool tastefully and to your liking, to develop, yet keep your photos "real".

Thanks! That makes me feel a lot better. Gosh these people really hate threads like this lol