Anyone Selling Prints As NFTs?

smoke665 · Jan 10, 2022

@TATTRAT personally I'm thinking there might be more money in How To Videos than in actually doing it. There's a lot more people willing to drop $20 cold hard cash than $3600 for an ETH coin.

TreeofLifeStairs · Jan 10, 2022

I’m pretty sure NFT’s have a path to monetizing things in Meta. While in the Facebook virtual world, things will be bought and sold that are virtual only and not tangible in any way. You could buy an NFT of a photograph to decorate your virtual space and know that you have either the only one or a numbered (1/1000 say) edition. Other things will be NFT’s too like avatars or a virtual handbag. The possibilities are literally endless as to what can be an NFT and what it’s use could be and how it’s displayed.

Personally I just see it as the ultimate form of vanity but that’s the direction the world seems to be progressing towards.

TATTRAT · Jan 10, 2022

AlanKlein said:
Can you show us what NFT you have for sale and any info about it?

I'd be happy to PM you, I don't want to spam this thread, just let me know.

TATTRAT · Jan 10, 2022

TreeofLifeStairs said:
I’m pretty sure NFT’s have a path to monetizing things in Meta. While in the Facebook virtual world, things will be bought and sold that are virtual only and not tangible in any way. You could buy an NFT of a photograph to decorate your virtual space and know that you have either the only one or a numbered (1/1000 say) edition. Other things will be NFT’s too like avatars or a virtual handbag. The possibilities are literally endless as to what can be an NFT and what it’s use could be and how it’s displayed.

Personally I just see it as the ultimate form of vanity but that’s the direction the world seems to be progressing towards.

That's a very valid point, even as some performance artists are already selling nft tickets to virtual events/shows that they will be doing in the metaverse in an attempt to build exclusivity. Virtual galleries with exclusive content, the list will go on and on. That I just won't get into, I much prefer a real world experience (like with most things).

smoke665 · Jan 11, 2022

TATTRAT said:
I much prefer a real world experience (like with most things).

My wife is a voracious reader downloading book after book on her tablet. I try to do the same and can barely get through a few pages before I have to quit, even though I love to read. Give me a real book, with real pages, and if it's good, I might devour it in one sitting.

We just back from a visit to Walt Disney, Orlando. I'm not sure some of the much touted rides that combine a fair amount of Virtual Reality are that much better. Now Disney just patented a Virtual World Simulator that will allow it to simulate augmented digital worlds for individualized multiple guests without the need for users to wear headsets or glasses. The thing about the virtual world is that our senses are designed for real world to work in conjunction with each other. Just like reading a real book, I see the words, but I also feel the page, smell the the paper/ink, sense it's size in relation to me world. Deprive someone of even one of the senses we take for granted and the brain notices, the virtual copy quickly becomes a novelty.

RacePhoto · Jan 17, 2022

From a friend a link and quote:

"All this means that if your NFT is removed from OpenSea, it also disappears from your wallet. It doesn’t functionally matter that my NFT is indelibly on the blockchain somewhere, because the wallet (and increasingly everything else in the ecosystem) is just using the OpenSea API to display NFTs"

My first impressions of web3

From some of my own searching:

Opinion matches mine: "NFTs are a tired pump and dump scam wrapped in high tech clothing."

Plus some background on what they are and are not.

https://mcn.edu/mcn-insights-nfts-are-a-scam/

Source:
Museum Computer Network Inc.
MCN is a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit corporation incorporated in the State of New York, U.S.A.

By Andrea Ledesma, Digital Product Specialist, The Field Museum, Jeremy Munro, Database Administrator, Smithsonian National Museum of African Art, Erin Canning, Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS, University of Guelph and MCN Board member, and Claire Blechman, former Digital Asset Manager, Peabody Essex Museum.

NFTs are unique crypto Tokens. “Non-fungible” more or less means that it’s unique and can’t be replaced with something else.

If I was famous, maybe I could sell a token that I created. The rights stay with the owner (me) it's my art, everything is still mine and the buyer can't do anything with that, except own a token. So people are paying for a NFT and could re-sell it, because it's a one of a kind token.

Whether this is a pump and dump or a bubble fad waiting to crash, I'm not joining, because I'm not someone who has anything that anyone else would pay for. Lets say I put up my most famous work of art. (that's hypothetical already) No one knows me or cares, it's not going to sell. Maybe it will?

AlanKlein · Jan 17, 2022

TATTRAT said:
That's a very valid point, even as some performance artists are already selling nft tickets to virtual events/shows that they will be doing in the metaverse in an attempt to build exclusivity. Virtual galleries with exclusive content, the list will go on and on. That I just won't get into, I much prefer a real world experience (like with most things).

Wouldn't companies like Facebook (Meta) purhase NFT's directly or more likely make up content for their own use? Why would they buy it second-hand from a buyer of an NFT?

smoke665 · Jan 17, 2022

On the news Wal-Mart to sell NFT's Walmart is quietly preparing to enter the metaverse I guess they gave up trying to keep their shelves stocked. It's comforting to know that I'll soon be able to buy a digital gallon of milk........NOT.

AlanKlein · Jan 17, 2022

TreeofLifeStairs said:
I’m pretty sure NFT’s have a path to monetizing things in Meta. While in the Facebook virtual world, things will be bought and sold that are virtual only and not tangible in any way. You could buy an NFT of a photograph to decorate your virtual space and know that you have either the only one or a numbered (1/1000 say) edition. Other things will be NFT’s too like avatars or a virtual handbag. The possibilities are literally endless as to what can be an NFT and what it’s use could be and how it’s displayed.

Personally I just see it as the ultimate form of vanity but that’s the direction the world seems to be progressing towards.

I'm still not clear of the difference between an NFT or just having a picture available in let's say Flickr?

AlanKlein · Jan 17, 2022

smoke665 said:
On the news Wal-Mart to sell NFT's Walmart is quietly preparing to enter the metaverse I guess they gave up trying to keep their shelves stocked. It's comforting to know that I'll soon be able to buy a digital gallon of milk........NOT.

The metaverse reminds me of that joke about the captain being tested to become an Admiral.

"So, Captain, what would you do if a storm suddenly appears from the Southwest?"
"Well, I'd throw out a storm anchor to the Southwest."

"And what would you do if another storm appears on the East?"
"Well, I'd throw a storm anchor to the east."

"What about if another one comes up from the North"
"Same thing. I'd throw out another storm anchor to the north."

"But captain,. Where are you getting all those storm anchors?"
"Well, says the Captain. The same damn place you're getting all those storms."

smoke665 · Jan 26, 2022

One of my recent thoughts on this has been reaffirmed with the supply chain issues brought on in part by the one world supply mentality and JIT inventory levels. All the little parts in constant movement around the world destined to arrive at their respective location minutes before they were needed on the line, what could've gone wrong? The world wide web swirling around the globe, like the supply chain, to me is deceptively fragile. Cyber attacks are occurring more frequently, power outages, hardware/infrastructure issues, etc., could bring down the WWW, at any time without warning.The thought of owning a virtual asset so dependent on that network vs the real life object in my hand, still doesn't make sense to me.

AlanKlein · Jan 26, 2022

When you buy a photo NFT, what resolution do you get it in? Jpeg? Tiff?

weepete · Jan 26, 2022

AlanKlein said:
When you buy a photo NFT, what resolution do you get it in? Jpeg? Tiff?

It depends on the creator. As I understand it the actual image file is a sidecar to the NFT, though they could potentially be stored on the blockchain, but currently that's expensive. NFTs are just digitally signed, encripted metadata most of the time that has a link back to the original source file, though there's no standard to where or how that's done.

I like to game in my spare time, and I do own a few "in game" items that are collectable and can be traded, bought, and sold for real money, while not being a phisical thing. But I get to use them when I play.

That last bit is lacking in a lot of NFTs. I could see them being used as say an encripted digtal contract but short of that I can't see how they make a difference or achieve their aim.