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Amazingly useful response Tim. What do you think of this deal:USA Canon EOS 6d 1 2 Day Usage w 28 200 Lens in Box with Bundle Accessories 013803204131 | eBay
The 6D body itself is the valuable item in that eBay listing. It looks like he bought a 6D with the 24-105mm f/4L kit (based on the box) but wants to keep the 24-105mm f/4L and sell the 6D with a used EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM lens.
This is a VERY OLD lens which is no longer made. Also... the image quality of it... well, here's the start of the review from the-digital-picture.com:
The Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM Lens holds a very wide focal length range in a compact and inexpensive package. But, image quality delivered by this lens is ... well ... poor.
(bold text added by me). Here's the link: Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM Lens Review
Overall, the review on that lens is... not very inspiring.
And as if that isn't enough... did you catch the following text in the eBay ad?
Along with the camera body is a Canon 28-200 lens WHICH IS NOT 100% EFFECTIVE IN AUTO MODE, yet works great in manual. I have not cleaned the contacts or taken it in for repair as I have many lenses which cross over to that magnification range.
I'm not sure what "NOT 100% EFFECTIVE IN AUTO MODE" means, but then he talks about it as if it needs service. It sounds like the seller is having problems with the lens.
The rest of the accessories very inexpensive -- they really don't add to the value of the deal. He's got an ancient Sunpak flash (which appears to be based on a thyristor -- not an E-TTL flash compatible with the camera so the flash can only be used in manual mode and it doesn't have a pivoting head so you can't bounce it for soft light. You can get a much better deal on an off-brand economically priced flash.
You mentioned you wanted to buy used gear, but did you happen to see the listing on Canon's refurbished store (this would be a purchase directly from Canon... but a refurb camera rather than new):
Here's the camera: Canon EOS 6D Body Refurbished | Canon Online Store
But note the green text that says you get $100 off on purchases over $500. Put the camera in your cart, then go check your cart. You'll see it's actually being sold for $1499. That's not a bad price on a 6D that comes with the same 1 year warranty as a new 6D.
You would still need a lens. Which lens is best for you depends on how much you want to spend and what you plan to shoot. The EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM is the "kit" lens usually sold with the body because it's a good general-purpose "walking around" lens, very sharp, good performance... basically a well-loved lens. The lens is $919 on the "refurb" store.
Another option, decently priced and keeps you under your $2000 budget (because the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM is going to exceed the budget by about $500 when you're done paying shipping & taxes) is the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM. That lens is $383 on the Canon refurb store, but that lens qualifies for $50 off bringing it down to $333. Here's the review on that lens:
Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens Review
The EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM is base level "walking around" standard zoom for full-frame bodies like the 6D, 5D, etc.
The EF 24-105mm f/4L IS USM is the upgraded level "walking around" standard zoom -- retailing for closer to $1150 (the refurb price at $919 is about $230 off the store price for a "new" lens).
The EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM II is the premium standard zoom (no "IS" on that lens, but it's a full stop faster for low light and creates a richer out-of-focus blur) but runs well over $2k all on it's own.
If you went with the 6D and 28-135mm lens, you'd end up paying a little over $1830, but you'd have a much better lens with no defects and a warranty.
Edit: After posting, I checked eBay for sales on *just* the 28-135mm. There are lots of them for sale... they all seem to be right around $200. So you could get the body only from Canon and then get the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM off eBay for around $200, for a total price of about $1700. That's probably a much better deal than the 6D package you found earlier with the suspicious lens that may not be in working condition based on the seller's ad.
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