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I'm not really small anymore (getting there though) but I saw a picture on Facebook the other day that had a picture of Marilyn Monroe and some skinny model. It said that the skinny model wasn't attractive.. It kind of bugged me because I have friends that physically cannot gain weight! If larger women feel like they are being made fun of or not seen as attractive why are they pointing their finger in the other direction saying that skinny girls aren't attractive? I think that we should be focusing on the good in a person vs how they look on the outside.

Bennie, I'm not saying that you were doing this :P
 
I'm not really small anymore (getting there though) but I saw a picture on Facebook the other day that had a picture of Marilyn Monroe and some skinny model. It said that the skinny model wasn't attractive.. It kind of bugged me because I have friends that physically cannot gain weight! If larger women feel like they are being made fun of or not seen as attractive why are they pointing their finger in the other direction saying that skinny girls aren't attractive? I think that we should be focusing on the good in a person vs how they look on the outside.

I know exactly which picture you're talking about. It's been making it's rounds... and I totally agree with you.
 
So I like all of the photos where you have not touched her waistline. Number 6, for myself, would be super offensive to me. If someone cut that much out of my waist, I would take it to mean that they thought I looked to large, didn't look good as I was, and didn't think that I viewed myself as a beautiful person just the way I am. You talk about how 'real' women are size 14, and yet you PP your photos to make them smaller? I understand that society looks down on us fatties, but you know what, not all of us wish to be skinny. If this was her wish, to look like she had a tiny waist when she really doesn't, I guess that is her prerogative, but like I said, if I got photos back from my wedding photog and she had decided to chop out some of my body, I would take some serious offense and send those photos right back.

Other than that, I like her poses, the lighting is good in most, the first couple look a little blown, but nothing horrible.

There is my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.
 
I saw that photo too Miss Cream. It showed a side by side of Marilyn, and some skinny actress, and I totally agree. I think a curvy girl is beautiful. I think a lot of guys agree.
The problem is, our outlook on ourselves. Not you and me, but many girls have major drama with how they view themselves, and they aren't happy until they see themselves as they "see themselves" if that makes sense. I've gone back and forth about this, because I know I am reinforcing the myth.
 
So I like all of the photos where you have not touched her waistline. Number 6, for myself, would be super offensive to me. If someone cut that much out of my waist, I would take it to mean that they thought I looked to large, didn't look good as I was, and didn't think that I viewed myself as a beautiful person just the way I am. You talk about how 'real' women are size 14, and yet you PP your photos to make them smaller? I understand that society looks down on us fatties, but you know what, not all of us wish to be skinny. If this was her wish, to look like she had a tiny waist when she really doesn't, I guess that is her prerogative, but like I said, if I got photos back from my wedding photog and she had decided to chop out some of my body, I would take some serious offense and send those photos right back.

Other than that, I like her poses, the lighting is good in most, the first couple look a little blown, but nothing horrible.

There is my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.

I totally understand what you are saying and agree. I think she is beautiful as she is. HOWEVER, she didn't want to be how she is. She wanted nips and tucks and told me where and paid extra to do so.

It was her wish. So I did it.
 
I totally understand what you are saying and agree. I think she is beautiful as she is. HOWEVER, she didn't want to be how she is. She wanted nips and tucks and told me where and paid extra to do so.

It was her wish. So I did it.

And that is sad because she is gorgeous just the way she is. I wonder if she will look at these pictures all the meantime thinking that it's not real, it's just a fantasy, and that she is not being real with herself. I as well have seen the side by side of Marilyn and the only thing I could think was, yeah, the one on the right is malnourished, but the one on the left isn't a 'real' woman either. She is curvy and skinny, and lower than a size 10. A real woman is someone like

Camryn Manheim:
File:Camryn Manheim.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

She is beautiful the way she is and she knows it.

I get so angry when people refer to someone who is still under a size 12 as 'plus size', such as the winner of a cycle of America's Next Top Model, Whitney

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She is gorgeous no doubt, but she is not plus size in a real sense. Maybe for the modeling world yes, but they need to get someone on that show who is a larger girl.

It's giving girls such an unhealthy body image and putting thoughts in their heads that they are not beautiful if they don't look like most of the models and actresses.

This bride is beautiful and it makes me sad that she doesn't see it. :(

I will stop ranting now. (obviously a sore subject lol)
 
KAikens318 said:
So I like all of the photos where you have not touched her waistline. Number 6, for myself, would be super offensive to me. If someone cut that much out of my waist, I would take it to mean that they thought I looked to large, didn't look good as I was, and didn't think that I viewed myself as a beautiful person just the way I am. You talk about how 'real' women are size 14, and yet you PP your photos to make them smaller? I understand that society looks down on us fatties, but you know what, not all of us wish to be skinny. If this was her wish, to look like she had a tiny waist when she really doesn't, I guess that is her prerogative, but like I said, if I got photos back from my wedding photog and she had decided to chop out some of my body, I would take some serious offense and send those photos right back.

Other than that, I like her poses, the lighting is good in most, the first couple look a little blown, but nothing horrible.

There is my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.

There was another thread where a person said that they normally make all the girls they photograph skinnier - even skinny girls. A couple other people chimed in because they did the same. The girls are happier that way I guess. So, it's not that uncommon and it seems to happen to most girls.

I found it a little upsetting that females these days have such bad body images that they want them altered in photos but if that is what makes them feel happier - then that's what should be done.
 
A real woman is someone like

Camryn Manheim:
File:Camryn Manheim.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

And she's beautiful, don't get me wrong... but a real woman is... well... generally speaking someone with a vagina, ovaries, cervix... etc. Period. :lol:

I'm so sick of everyone defining "real women" by their size, be it small, average, or plus sized.

Saying that "real" women are only women size 12 - 18, or what have you... or others shaped like the woman above... is a slap to the face to those of us who are naturally petite.

Just like "average" and/or "plus sized" woman can develop complexes about their weight and feel like they *need* to lose it when they look perfectly fine, healthy, and beautiful the way they are... thin women can develop complexes about *their* weight too and feel like they *need* to *gain* it when they look perfectly fine, healthy, and beautiful the way they are.

If we want to get it *right* society shouldn't be looking down on *any* woman for their weight.

Of course there are instances where too much or too little weight is getting into the realm of "unhealthy", but GENERALLY speaking, a "real" woman doesn't just encompass "average" sized woman any more than it should encompass just those of us still forced to shop in the children's section. :lol:

I swear it too me two hours to peal those stupid little blinking flowers off my child-sized sneakers...... :biglaugh: :sexywink:

/soapbox. (Obviously a sore subject for me as well :lol: :sexywink: )
 
Real woman: Carbon-based, bipedal life-form found on the planet earth. Walks upright (except occasionally on Saturday evenings), capable of verbal and non-verbal communication and bearing live young. Available in a wide range of hieghts, weights, colours and statures.
 
KAikens318 said:
So I like all of the photos where you have not touched her waistline. Number 6, for myself, would be super offensive to me. If someone cut that much out of my waist, I would take it to mean that they thought I looked to large, didn't look good as I was, and didn't think that I viewed myself as a beautiful person just the way I am. You talk about how 'real' women are size 14, and yet you PP your photos to make them smaller? I understand that society looks down on us fatties, but you know what, not all of us wish to be skinny. If this was her wish, to look like she had a tiny waist when she really doesn't, I guess that is her prerogative, but like I said, if I got photos back from my wedding photog and she had decided to chop out some of my body, I would take some serious offense and send those photos right back.

Other than that, I like her poses, the lighting is good in most, the first couple look a little blown, but nothing horrible.

There is my two cents. Take it for what it's worth.

There was another thread where a person said that they normally make all the girls they photograph skinnier - even skinny girls. A couple other people chimed in because they did the same. The girls are happier that way I guess. So, it's not that uncommon and it seems to happen to most girls.

I found it a little upsetting that females these days have such bad body images that they want them altered in photos but if that is what makes them feel happier - then that's what should be done.

Yeah. I have no qualms with people re-shaping in photographs, if you will. If the bride asked for it, Bennie gave her what she want.

I still thinks that particular image could use a little more *gradual* tuck... but... for all I know the bride wants that super-corset look. :lol:

My issue is with the definition of "real woman". Clearly. :lol:

Ah, God, I gotta get back to this **** I'm working on. I'm SO CLOSE to being done! :lmao:
 
Real woman: Carbon-based, bipedal life-form found on the planet earth. Walks upright (except occasionally on Saturday evenings), capable of verbal and non-verbal communication and bearing live young. Available in a wide range of hieghts, weights, colours and statures.

THANK YOU!

I dunno where my friggin' like button went... but THANK you. :lol:

 
Real woman: Carbon-based, bipedal life-form found on the planet earth. Walks upright (except occasionally on Saturday evenings), capable of verbal and non-verbal communication and bearing live young. Available in a wide range of hieghts, weights, colours and statures.

THANK YOU!

I dunno where my friggin' like button went... but THANK you. :lol:

You are welcome! ;)
 
I understand what you are saying e.rose. the thing about we women, is that we come in all shapes and sizes, and it's all good.

I've felt conflicted about this for a while. Here is my personal experience....

When I was younger, I was super thin. I'm 6 foot tall and for most of my life I weighed 124 Lbs. Then I hit 40. My body had a mind of it's own. I hated photos of myself, because they didn't look like the me I still saw in the mirror. I could only see a one diminutional image in the mirror, When I saw something else I would freak. even though that 140 lb girl was me, it's not how I saw myself. So I could see how these gals felt.

Not too long ago I had a client that totally cried when she saw herself in wedding photos. She told me that she was skinny when she got engaged, then she found out she had a huge brain tumor. Two years later she is getting married and is 100 lbs heavier. Because of her cancer treatment her whole body changed. Her now hubby loved her just the same, but she didn't love how she looked. She knew that when she asked me to "change her back" (she sent me photos to work off of) that she didn't look like she did right now. I told her that she shouldn't do it. But that is what she wanted more than anything. So I did. I was super conflicted because part of me was happy that I could help her feel better, bit the other part of me felt like I was reinforcing negativity in regards to her current body type. This is an argument ghat I have with myself quite a bit.
 
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