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Camera and lens for Wildlife and Sport photography

Pentax was very late to the digital game and Sony are very new to the DLSR market (even though they bought out an older camera company). As a result Canon and Nikon stole the market and share massive parcels of it - as a result the average person generally has move experience of one of those two brands over others like Sony and Pentax.

On the DSLR front I would say that a Canon 7D is certainly an ideal way to start this area, giving you a high quality body with fast AF, good build and video - heck if you want more you've got either a 5MIII or a 1DMIV either of which would basically eat up your budget and leave nothing for a lens - and in this field of photography a good lens is expensive and important.



As for what lens to go for that is more tricky. Canon side you can consider:
300mm f4 IS L - with a 1.4TC as well you get a fast lens that has good image quality and the support of IS. You can use it for the sports field or use the 1.4TC and get out for the countryside with 420mm f5.6 IS L in effect (1.4TC increases lens focal length by 1.4 times, but "costs" one stop off your maximum aperture).

400mm f5.6 L - sharper than the above and the sharpest in this price bracket - good quality and fast AF and very popular with bird photographers. Downside is you might find it a bit long for some sports (its an iffy statment though since many sports shooters will use 400mm prime lenses). As a budget fitting easy choice for both this might be the best bang for your buck lens.

100-400mm IS L f4.5-5.6 - this has a variable maximum aperture and also the lower image quality being as its a zoom. However it will deliver perfectly usable images (it is an L lens) and if you can stop down a little at the long end you can get some very very sharp shots.

As you can see the biggest downside with this price bracket of lenses is the maximum aperture. Sports and wildlife both put strong demands on your gear as they both need quality long reach, fast shutter speeds and also often both have less than ideal lighting. With the above combos you'll find you'll have to raise the ISO higher and higher as you hit that f5.6 400mm barrier.

Another option is to consider the second hand market - a Second hand Sigma 120-300mm f2.8 is a quality lens that should fit your budget with a bit of room to spare to allow for a 7D. It gives you a faster working maximum aperture and a good zoom range for the sports pitch. Combine with a 1.4TC and you've an impressive range up to 420mm and if you can stop down it can do decently well with a 2*TC so I've read (though it might prove a bit of a quality drop for some).

It has got a newer and optically improved version now in the 120-300mm OS edition - however that lens new costs $3.2K and thus would leave far less budget for your camera body. You might get lucky with one second hand (Sigma lenses tend to drop off more in value second hand) and then maybe pick up a second hand 7D or you could get a 60D for reduced cost.
 
Thx for a nice answer :) i am leaning towards 7D with 100-400. But a friend of me brought his a77 over a hour ago. He has the 70-300 G SSM lens.. it focus so fast. But as the 7D is outdated (by date) by the A77, shouldn`t you have better time tracking a bird with the A77?
 
The build quality is not the main thing.. the priority is tracking birds and cars/bikes well

i have a budget of about 3.5k

and 1 thing i didnt mention, i whould like some movie function. Becouse it whould be cool to record a bird fly and make it slow motion in pp

For 3.5k yes, 7D with 100-400L


can i ask why? Who do you jump on the 7D? whouldn`t the A77 with 70-400 do the same job? or am i missing something?

i wonder why everyone is hating sony and pentax. hmm

You are looking at things without close thought to what your needs will be here. Or maybe it's just lack of experience until now.
You'll need good auto focus and tracking and good low light ability.

Sony's cameras are definitely stepping up to the plate without a doubt. The A77 is attractive with it's 12FPS (AWESOME) and a decent focus system. If you like sony and are comfortable with it the camera body is a pretty decent choice. Would it be mine? No, but that doesn't make it a bad camera. It doesn't have the weather sealing that a higher end body does-which can be an issue with outdoor and sports. It can also be gotten around with a weather sleeve. The camera might not be the problem so much as the lens. It's f/4 to 5.6 and that will be a major problem with sports. That 5.6 on most lit football fields and inside almost any gym is going to be a problem. Look for a better lens.

The 7D is a great sports body with some weather sealing, good focus system and 8FPS (serves me WELL at 8FPS.) I have a (broken) 1d III like mike mentioned. It's a better sports camera in general, but the additional crop factor on my 7D has me reaching for it more often to maximize my reach with my 70-200. I am not sure why you aren't adding in the TC to this one too.

The Nikon D3 is a great sports camera at 8FPS with an outstanding focus system. You are thinking about adding the 70-200 with a TC with it which will make up for the fact that it's not a crop sensor at all. All fine well and great, but don't forget that you lose a stop of light or more depending on the TC. That might pinch in some situations. I don't think that Nikon offers something comparable with the Canon 100-400L, but the Nikon guys can guide you more on that.

You didn't mention the D300S, D7000 or the new D600. They've got slower FPS. That's something you have to decide upon.
 
Well i need atleast 8FPS like the 7D. but i have seen tests of the A77 out in snow, and out i rain so i think its on par with the sealing of the 7D. But for lenses. Is every L lens weather sealed?
 
I don't care if a camera is "weather sealed" or not, you'd damn well better protect it in the inclement weather. To me that doesn't NEGATE the need for weather sealing-moisture in the air and all that, but it definitely makes me not worry so much.
Keep Silica Gel in your camera bag and your weather sleeve.

As for L glass and what is weather sealed here you go: List of weather sealed lenses | Canon5Dtips
 
is it any prodections i can buy to the 7D to make it more rugged?
 
is it any prodections i can buy to the 7D to make it more rugged?

Rugged or weather resistant? You can purchase padding for lenses and bodies to make them somewhat more more shock resistant and you can buy rain covers for inclement weather, and you can get underwater housings for many bodies. Nothing except being careful is going to protect one from banging against a rock though.
 
What? What do you mean more rugged? No camera is "rugged" like the boulder cell phones or in the event you drop them. As for moisture, rain and cold temps you can get a weather sleeve. You can buy an underwater housing for almost any DSLR. As far as weather sealing goes the 7D is fairly well sealed, but I still will be shooting with a rainsleeve tonight in the mist. Not going to take a chance. They are a cheap insurance policy and you can get silica gel at any craft store in the floral department. It's used for drying flowers. The mesh bags that are used for wedding favors are nice for putting it in.
 
what reason? :) why wont anyone use pentax and sony or olympus? are they all so bad at sport and wildlife?

Generaly the reason is the Canon and Nikon camera bodies are better built, perform better, more features, and produce better images in low light conditions (IE less noise). They also produce better lenses that provide sharper images with less chromatic aberration and distortion. I see you asked why you would want to stay away from these cameras if you only want to use one lens. Well there will come a time when you want to upgrade your lens, perhaps purchase a different focal length or faster lens and there is a chance Sony / Pentax / Olympus wont have what you are looking for whereas Canon and Nikon will. Dont get me wrong, those manufactures produce great cameras, but there is a reason most pro's shoot Nikon or Canon. And its not because they want to be seen with one in front of their face. Its because of the better product.

your still going to get good results with Pentax / Sony / Olympus. But Canon or Nikon will outperfom those three cameras and even some of the older Canon / Nikon cameras will dance circles around them.
 
I'd be wavering back and fort on the D3 and the 7D. I REALLY like that added little bit of reach on my 7D for sports, but the full frame sure would be nice for IQ and noise issues.
Flip a coin.
 
yeah i am wavering between thoes. I need 8FPS becouse i like the high rate to take some nice shots. And sappper6fd.. that was alot of bullcrap. Olympus and pentax make damn good camera bodies. Most people say K-5 and E-3 is some of the best constructed bodies. And how can Nikon outpreform pentax and sony when they all use the same sensor? And yes pro`s use canon and nikon becouse they where the big boys realy. And many of the pro`s cnat risk the change of brand and maby not get the same results as they got with the other system they used. So i ask for help not fake facts. So let people who have experience and have real facts answer please.

back to the topic. If i am staying out a whole day in the winter with a 7D and a lens. What can i buy/get to make the condition for the camera better?
 
For Arctic like weather the 7D can certainly take it
The Canon 7D loves inclement weather, even at Antarctic levels | TechCrunch

That said moisture can be a killer so you'll want something like what they have - a general weather protective coat to slip over lens and camera. There are a few one the market, though I've never been in such strong weather conditions to need to purchase one as yet so I can't suggest brands.

Also in any cold weather any DSLR will suffer poor battery performance - most keep a spare set of batteries in a breast pocket (so that its kept warm by the body) and will shift between the two sets (as they cool they lose performance, as they warm up again they regain some of it)
 

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