KhronoS
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Ok let me clear this out... I used the same glass on the bodies. so no cheap lenses, i took care so that everything except the bodies are the same, values, lenses etc.
Second of all 40D has a 1.6x Crop factor and the 1D Mk3 has 1.3x crop factor (it's not the fullframe 1Ds Mk3).
You gave me some sound explanation, and i too have the same view as you Glass first body second. Also i know that 70% of the photograph is the photographer skills, 25% it's the luck you have (i guess this applies the most to press/nature/photojurnalism photography) and 5% the gear you have.
After my experience one fact is clear i will buy the L glasses for sure, but the thing i want to get too is: "do i have to change the body too?"
I was very sure that with good glasses I could stick to 40D, but I guess i can't go back now... the 1D mk3 it's amazing, from a lot of aspects.
Also I'm not a totally beginner at this, it's just that all my concepts and ideas about this fact were kind of "denied". This is why i asked this.
I guess i got my answers. In the end the body has its importance.
Thank you guys
Second of all 40D has a 1.6x Crop factor and the 1D Mk3 has 1.3x crop factor (it's not the fullframe 1Ds Mk3).
The camera doesn't matter
Its all in the hands of the photographer
Andsel Adams would have shot Pultzer (SP) winning shots with a disposable kodak
Nothing matters but film
Ok most of these comments all start with a good sound reason for existing, but they are all extremes and so often used out of context (and so often in threads like these they popup as you get very polarized arguments.
Does the camera matter? Well look at it logically if the camera didn't matter Pros would not spend £/$1000s on a pro end body would they? They would get the 350D beginner level body and shoot happily away with that.
but you know what the beginner level cameras are good:
Juza Nature Photography
even if you take it more extreme:
Pawe³ Bieniewski - Makrofotografia
Pawe³ Bieniewski - Makrofotografia
So what's the same you ask - well the lenses are pro line and the photographers are very good at what they do. So on those facts and that evidence it looks like the body isn't important = but then why does someone like Juza now shoot with a 1D and not still with the 350D?
Simply put because the 1D is the better camera, it has the advantages of being that bit sharper, of having better dynamic range, far better noise control, faster and more accurate AF, more custom functions, better build quality, weather sealing, etc....
Those are the things the camera body is giving you - in the list of priorities the glass and skills of the photographer are clearly showing that they are responcible for a greater overall change in photographic quality - with glass also being a defining element in what you can capture ( you need a macro lens stup for macro - you need a wider angle lens for landscapes - you need a telephoto for much wildlifework). The body just records that light.
In the end I hold the view of glass first - body second. Better glass will expand what is possible, give you a more noticable improvment in image quality and generally last you a hack of a lot longer than a new camera body will - well kept glass can last decades and still be performing very well (since this area advances far slower than that of the digital world).
But one has to remember that good photos also come from a good photographer as well - pro end gear will give quality results, but those higher quality photos are only going to come from someone who can frame, compose and be in the right place at the right time to get those shots.
You gave me some sound explanation, and i too have the same view as you Glass first body second. Also i know that 70% of the photograph is the photographer skills, 25% it's the luck you have (i guess this applies the most to press/nature/photojurnalism photography) and 5% the gear you have.
After my experience one fact is clear i will buy the L glasses for sure, but the thing i want to get too is: "do i have to change the body too?"
I was very sure that with good glasses I could stick to 40D, but I guess i can't go back now... the 1D mk3 it's amazing, from a lot of aspects.
Also I'm not a totally beginner at this, it's just that all my concepts and ideas about this fact were kind of "denied". This is why i asked this.
I guess i got my answers. In the end the body has its importance.
Thank you guys