Canon ae-1 or Olympus om-1?

[-Su]

reznap Thank you for informing about the canon ae1 and tips on the shutters, I'll keep that in mind when/if I decide to buy a film camera.

 

[Derrel]

Canon Digital Camera Bodies - KEH.com

A used Canon 20D body from KEH.com is only $349 in Excellent condition...I would much rather have a Canon 20D than a Nikon or Olympus or Canon 35mm manual focus film camera. I learned on film,and am pretty familiar with a number of 35mm film cameras, some of which were very nice picture-taking machines.

 

[Chamelion 6]

-Su, you have to look at the costs differently. A $600 canon Rebel XSi will last you 3-5 years, speed your learning with instant feedback, and you can print/enlarge your occasional keeper as you go. With a film camera that you buy for $50 that will last you a few years, you have to add up all the costs of film and developing over that same time.

Digital the cost is upfront, film, you pay over time.

^^^ This is pretty much right on target.

 

[-Su]

So what are some suggestions for good cameras? I'm a real beginner so all the technicality stuff/photography language I do not completely understand.

 

[DirtyDFeckers]

So what are some suggestions for good cameras? I'm a real beginner so all the technicality stuff/photography language I do not completely understand.

Again, it is all about what you are looking for in a camera... For a beginner, something like a Canon Rebel xsi or a Nikon D3000 would be just fine. I have seen some black friday adds for the Canon, $449 kit price, which is a solid deal, for a solid camera. Don't get dragged into a Nikon vs Canon debate, which is a pointless waste of time where you wont get any definitive answers. IT IS ALL PERSONAL PREFERENCE. Both companies manufacture a high quality product.

 

[enzodm]

So what are some suggestions for good cameras? I'm a real beginner so all the technicality stuff/photography language I do not completely understand.

any dSLR you can afford will be good for a beginner. Within your budget, you can find some new (Canon Rebel Xs, Nikon d3000, some Olympus, some Sony) including kit zoom, or go for something better but used..

 

[-Su]

Thanks I was also just looking into the Canon Rebel xsi as well

 

[enzodm]

Thanks I was also just looking into the Canon Rebel xsi as well

A good idea. There are better (and more expensive) cameras, but to understand why you need to have done some experience. Being your first dSLR, it will seem excellent anyway. Save some dollar for a good photography book, and a tripod: they will influence picture quality more than 200 extra dollars on the camera .

 

[Patrice]

I'm going to go against the grain here as far as recommending an inexpensive first digital camera. Previously owned d70 or d200 would not be a bad choice. Both have focus motors so an inexpensive 50 mm 1.8D can be used. Both can function as a CLS commander if you ever get a Nikon SB600 flash. The d70 will sync with some manual flashes all the way up to 1/4000 sec and in some cases to 1/8000. The d200 has a sealed metal body and some interesting and useful features. The d200 will meter with an astounding array of older nikon lenses. Both have rather dated sensors so they are noisy beyond ISO 400. The d200 creates very nice imagery at base iso, rivals d2x in this category. Both are very inexpensive!

Don't know anything about canon, sorry.

As for film - it's expensive and feedback is slow. (I'm buying an om1 for astrophotography - I can lock the mirror up and leave the shutter open as long as I want without draining batteries, and it's lightweight but durable. Weight is the enemy of telescope mounts!)

 

[-Su]

What about the Olympus E-510?

 

[uniqstyle-power]

thanks for the advices. i have learned a couple things.:hug::

 

[uniqstyle-power]

could you make a litter clearly about Olympus E-510 ? tks

 

[Canon AE-1]

I'm kind of in the same boat, just starting off in the art of photography. I feel that a digital camera is sort of a cheat for me. Just point and shoot for the most part.

I prefer to use a manual camera to learn on. The art of getting the shot right, exposure, methods, experimentation, effects, angles and so on. The same can be done on a digital from the on board effects or photoshop, but that takes the fun out of it. Where is the true art? The only thing i like about digital is the fact u can upload the pics to the computer right after a shoot. For now i have to wait on film processing. But after i master the camera then maybe i will get into processing my own photos. Patience and one step at a time. My cameras: Canon AE-1, AE-1 Program, T-70.

btw, I got my cams off of ebay. Price: AE-1 35.00 used and i only had to replace the seals, AE-1 program 62.00 new in the box, T-70 24.00 used just cleaned the mirror. They all work great.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I prefer to use a manual camera to learn on.

Digital camera can be used manually.

The art of getting the shot right, exposure, methods, experimentation, effects, angles and so on.

You do that with digital too.

The same can be done on a digital from the on board effects or photoshop, but that takes the fun out of it.

You can do it through the lens with a digital, also.

Where is the true art?

Really? REALLY?

The only thing i like about digital is the fact u can upload the pics to the computer right after a shoot.

Which increases learning speed.

 

[Canon AE-1]

LOL, Bitter Jeweler! Ok Ok. For me, there is just something missing from the digitals, Maybe the 35mm film? I dont know, something. I have some digitals but it's not the same. Perhaps i'm just an old school die hard fogy, lol.[URL="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/members/bitter-jeweler.html"][/URL]