Can't get pixel count out of my head - 12.1 vs 24.2

[Braineack]

the D700 runs circles around the latest and greatest full frames. Nikon got it right at that time. It was downhill after that. Get the D700 and you will have a camera that you could practically keep until it breaks.

The D700 cannot render any of the detail the rest are showing. Youre also viewing them all at 1:1, view the rest at a 12MP size and they'll look much better.

look at the blue feathers above, the D700 is rendering them as a blur, the rest are picking up individual strands.

yeah, look at them at the same viewing size:

Which sensor is running the circles? One of them has signicantly cleaner noise and more fine detail.

 

[Peeb]

I chose the D5500 last Summer for many of the reasons described in this thread: size, weight, convenience, pixels, modern features.

6,000 clicks later I'm satisfied with my choice. Might transition to FF someday, as it was my initial bias but I just couldn't justify the added cost/size/weight at this point in my life.

There's no academically correct answer here- only the right choice for YOU.

 

[dtmateojr]

the D700 runs circles around the latest and greatest full frames. Nikon got it right at that time. It was downhill after that. Get the D700 and you will have a camera that you could practically keep until it breaks.

The D700 cannot render any of the detail the rest are showing. Youre also viewing them all at 1:1, view the rest at a 12MP size and they'll look much better.

look at the blue feathers above, the D700 is rendering them as a blur, the rest are picking up individual strands.

yeah, look at them at the same viewing size:

View attachment 116508

Which sensor is running the circles? One of them has signicantly cleaner noise and more fine detail.

I can make any image look cleaner by stepping backward a few inches. The question is, what's the largest print you ever did with your camera? A 2Mp camera can fill a billboard. Fact.

 

[Peeb]

I can make any image look cleaner by stepping backward a few inches. The question is, what's the largest print you ever did with your camera? A 2Mp camera can fill a billboard. Fact.

Yeah, I am sure that you COULD 'fill' a 2MP billboard with something, but I was advised by the billboard company to provide at least an 18MP image, which turned out great.

That's MY fact.

 

[Braineack]

the D700 runs circles around the latest and greatest full frames. Nikon got it right at that time. It was downhill after that. Get the D700 and you will have a camera that you could practically keep until it breaks.

The D700 cannot render any of the detail the rest are showing. Youre also viewing them all at 1:1, view the rest at a 12MP size and they'll look much better.

look at the blue feathers above, the D700 is rendering them as a blur, the rest are picking up individual strands.

yeah, look at them at the same viewing size:

View attachment 116508

Which sensor is running the circles? One of them has signicantly cleaner noise and more fine detail.

I can make any image look cleaner by stepping backward a few inches. The question is, what's the largest print you ever did with your camera? A 2Mp camera can fill a billboard. Fact.

I only care about how it looks viewed on screen.

and the D700 looks bad compared to modern FX sensors.

 

[dtmateojr]

the D700 runs circles around the latest and greatest full frames. Nikon got it right at that time. It was downhill after that. Get the D700 and you will have a camera that you could practically keep until it breaks.

The D700 cannot render any of the detail the rest are showing. Youre also viewing them all at 1:1, view the rest at a 12MP size and they'll look much better.

look at the blue feathers above, the D700 is rendering them as a blur, the rest are picking up individual strands.

yeah, look at them at the same viewing size:

View attachment 116508

Which sensor is running the circles? One of them has signicantly cleaner noise and more fine detail.

I can make any image look cleaner by stepping backward a few inches. The question is, what's the largest print you ever did with your camera? A 2Mp camera can fill a billboard. Fact.

I only care about how it looks viewed on screen.

and the D700 looks bad compared to modern FX sensors.

Viewed on screen the D800 and D600 look awful compared to the D700. Look at the comparison I originally posted. Night and day.

 

[Solarflare]

Would pick the D700 in a heartbeat. Its not even close to a competition.

Why ?

- Because my friggin lenses work the way they are intended.
- Much better high ISO.
- Much better controls.
- Pro features like HSS all present.
- Much better build quality, longer shutter life, battery life etc. Also higher fps (up to 8fps with battery grip).

The only plus of the D5300 would be the flipscreen, and the low weight and size.

 

[Braineack]

the D700 runs circles around the latest and greatest full frames. Nikon got it right at that time. It was downhill after that. Get the D700 and you will have a camera that you could practically keep until it breaks.

The D700 cannot render any of the detail the rest are showing. Youre also viewing them all at 1:1, view the rest at a 12MP size and they'll look much better.

look at the blue feathers above, the D700 is rendering them as a blur, the rest are picking up individual strands.

yeah, look at them at the same viewing size:

View attachment 116508

Which sensor is running the circles? One of them has signicantly cleaner noise and more fine detail.

I can make any image look cleaner by stepping backward a few inches. The question is, what's the largest print you ever did with your camera? A 2Mp camera can fill a billboard. Fact.

I only care about how it looks viewed on screen.

and the D700 looks bad compared to modern FX sensors.

Viewed on screen the D800 and D600 look awful compared to the D700. Look at the comparison I originally posted. Night and day.

I posted the exact same comparing in a scenario that people will actually view two photos at. The D700 looks worse -- it's turned details into blury mush.

Your comparison is purposefully flawed to achieve your desired result. Why would I look at two photos, but one larger than the other?

That would be like comparing how a D700 and D600 prints, but printing the D700 image a 4x6" and the D600 at 11x17".

 

[jaomul]

I dont see that much of a difference. OK, one is better, but that's a photo looking at detail extremes as a chart comparison. Yes newer cameras do it better, but if you are only printing within a certain spec the older technology is also great. A d700 is not now a bad camera because there is a d800/810/610/600 etc

 

[Braineack]

A d700 is not now a bad camera because there is a d800/810/610/600 etc

not all FX cameras are bad, just some are more bad than others.

 

[jaomul]

A d700 is not now a bad camera because there is a d800/810/610/600 etc

not all FX cameras are bad, just some are more bad than others.

There's a good chance in five years time there will be an entry fx d,something or other in the nikon range that has 48+megapixels with better dynamic range and noise properties than your d610 for even cheaper than your d610.

Graphs and massively large photos or 100% crops will show it is better than the camera of today, but existing, working d610s will still take photos as good as ever, and for the vat majority of people, they will be good enough, or indeed better than good enough. I'd nearly say that most don't print bigger than 12x8 regularly, where magazine quality requires about 9 mp

 

[astroNikon]

Don't forget, some people crop a lot. So that comes into play with the captured image original resolution.

 

[robbins.photo]

Don't forget, some people crop a lot. So that comes into play with the captured image original resolution.

Man isn't that the truth. Some people post pretty much nothing but crop all the... oh wait, you said crop. Ok, never mind.

Lol

 

[gckless]

Would pick the D700 in a heartbeat. Its not even close to a competition.

Why ?

- Because my friggin lenses work the way they are intended.
- Much better high ISO.
- Much better controls.
- Pro features like HSS all present.
- Much better build quality, longer shutter life, battery life etc. Also higher fps (up to 8fps with battery grip).

The only plus of the D5300 would be the flipscreen, and the low weight and size.

What about your lenses exactly don't work the way they were intended on a crop sensor? Besides the focal length, but I wouldn't list that under "work the way they were intended". Don't most lenses work better on a crop sensor?

 

[Peeb]

What about your lenses exactly don't work the way they were intended on a crop sensor? Besides the focal length, but I wouldn't list that under "work the way they were intended". Don't most lenses work better on a crop sensor?

"better"? Well I suppose they exclude the edges, so ... maybe?

Still, not sure I would say 'better'- just different.