Cgipson banned? Huh?

[mishele]

Reciting 50 shades isn't dirty. ..dirty bird.

Did Kathy read them dirty books?

BTW...Charlie introduced me to all kinds of dirty books. Lol

 

[DarkShadow]

This is better then the movie theater.

 

[IByte]

Did Kathy read them dirty books?

BTW...Charlie introduced me to all kinds of dirty books. Lol

Lol he warped your fragile lil mind, or did he set your REAL self free? BTW It's call free porn online Mishy. Silly lil girl you and your hard copies .

 

[mishele]

What is this "porn" you speak of?!

 

[IByte]

What is this "porn" you speak of?!

Oh I forgot you ladies call them "Romance" novels/movies.

 

[tecboy]

I never had a negative experience with Charlie. Some of you actually hate him, do you hate other members, too. Do you expect them to be banned? I think some of you provoke Charlie's behavior that led him to be banned. No wonder there are thread lockings. You guys can't get along.

 

[Tee]

Oh no I wonder what happened. Hope he comes back.

Charlie calls it as he sees it which is why his "I just went to Best buy, now I'm a pro" rants are classic and epic. I hope he comes back although I'm sure some mods wish he wouldn't. Too many people read Charlie's posts subjectively rather than objectively.

...in before the lock.

This is incorrect, and it’s unfortunate that this perception exists. Charlie did a lot worse than offend “one particular member”; honestly, it takes a lot for a regular member to get banned around here. All we ask is that everyone abides by the TPF guidelines, especially the ones regarding behavior. As Mish mentioned, he had plenty of opportunities. We spent a lot of time chatting with him, and I don’t think there is a mod on the team who was happy about this penalty.

You may consider his rants against newbies and amateurs “classic and epic,” but from a moderator viewpoint, they are simply disruptive, disrespectful, and not in keeping with the guidelines.

The moderating team is here to enforce the guidelines. We are not the gestapo. Please avoid the insults; we’ve done nothing to earn that title.

Soooo easy to be on the outside looking in, and be a Monday morning quarterback!

You are correct in that I made assumptions and for that I apologize. My loathing for a particular member clouded my judgment.

 

[terri35 6]

I think some of you provoke Charlie's behavior that led him to be banned. No wonder there are thread lockings. You guys can't get along.

Whoa there, fella. This is not the case at all! Newbies were targeted by Charlie, as were other groups that were previously mentioned. Charlie acted in deliberate and aggressive ways: this may interest and entertain some people and even win him respect, but it's outside of what is permissible via the TPF guidelines. His persistence in this regard, despite many discussions, warnings and short temp-bans earned him this longer vacation.

In addition, some of us on the team have been doing this for many years...we know how to interpret the evolution of an argument. I said it earlier in this thread, but I guess it bears repeating: let's keep it real. Thanks!

 

[usayit]

You may consider his rants against newbies and amateurs “classic and epic,” but from a moderator viewpoint, they are simply disruptive, disrespectful, and not in keeping with the guidelines.

THIS ^^^

Been here a very long time. This has always bothered me... makes the place feel like a high school where immaturity buys you popularity. Its relatively difficult to get banned here. I've crossed the line with a couple members a few times but in the end we keep it on topic and not personal.

 

[IByte]

I gotta say he was one of the first people that welcomed me into the forum.

He gave me some good advice(as did many others) when I posted of few of my works. I also think he looks at the novices that are working hard to produce some great art, rather than the JWACS/RWAC(Runnah with a camera. .

Maybe he's a bit draconian in his criticism, but I guess it worked for when he was a full-time photog.

 

[pthrift]

I feel like I've missed something on not knowing who charlie is; being as his ban has warranted 115 responses & most cc threads do well to have 10 responses....

Just an observation

 

[Tailgunner]

I think some of you provoke Charlie's behavior that led him to be banned. No wonder there are thread lockings. You guys can't get along.

Whoa there, fella. This is not the case at all! Newbies were targeted by Charlie, as were other groups that were previously mentioned. Charlie acted in deliberate and aggressive ways: this may interest and entertain some people and even win him respect, but it's outside of what is permissible via the TPF guidelines. His persistence in this regard, despite many discussions, warnings and short temp-bans earned him this longer vacation.

In addition, some of us on the team have been doing this for many years...we know how to interpret the evolution of an argument. I said it earlier in this thread, but I guess it bears repeating: let's keep it real. Thanks!

Ya, It was like Charlie was on a personal mission to weed out the weak before a Survival trip...anyone new to the forum was subject to Charlie's Boot Camp. It was a minor annoyance for me but I could see where it would really discourage new people from seeking help from the group. Hopefully Charlie will rejoin the group and able to Sugar coat things in the future.

 

[cowleystjames]

Gotta say that some of the posts were almost bullying in their tone, newbies on any forum need to be handled gently if you want the forum to prosper. Everyone was a newbie at some time and mistakes get made, but we all learn.
Nobody needs bullies...

 

[The_Traveler]

It is almost inevitable that people who are quite active here develop sort of a protective feeling about other even-difficult members.
'He may be a difficult crank but he's our difficult crank.'

And, at the same time, develop a feeling of ownership towards the forum. Well, it isn't 'ours' in any real sense, just a place where someone, the owners as represented by the admins, lets us play in return for behavior within their standards of reasonable behavior.

The Mods are tasked with enforcing these standards in a way that balances the goods of active discussion and interaction along with an encouraging atmosphere for the constant flow of new members.

I have been around, on and off, for a while and trust the good intentions of the current group of Mods and so I trust that while certain actions may be inscrutable to me, there are decent and good reasons.

I have been a mod at two other places - one incredibly less behaved than here and one incredibly better. With the member audience that this place draws, it works reasonably well.

 

[ratssass]