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Wow, Michele...that new avatar...it's quite hypnotizing...Those things are bee-boppin' and scattin' all over the places.
If I ever win the lottery, I'm going to buy a pair just like it!! :sexywink:

I'll probably keep mine, but just make them all perky-like.

See...Charlie HAS to come back again! He'd miss the avatar and suggestive tangents! :)

Charlie would be all over this discussion!! :greenpbl:
 
I am sure you two ladies are perfect the way you are.
 
I am sure you two ladies are perfect the way you are.
Is this really runnah posting right now? This is lacking sexual innuendos.
 
Is this really runnah posting right now? This is lacking sexual innuendos.

Sorry I had a long and hard day. I just couldn't wait to bury my aching head between two pillows and drift off to complete bliss.
 
Strange.... When I started a similar topic about the banning of Bynx, it got immediately shut down, no discussion. But like Charlie, though he was harsh, I learned in time to appreciate his criticisms.

I really did not like Charlie that much at all, at first, but then the past few weeks or so I noticed that he's been much kinder on my threads. I don't know if it's because I showed to him I really appreciated his comments, or if he has a "you have to be a member for this long for me to be nice to you" requirement.

Anyway, I hope he comes back too, but I also want the same for Bynx and I find it a little strange that Bynx wasn't offered the same courtesy.
 
Don't miss Bynx, won't miss Charlie.

Neither one of them ever really exhibited the ability to offer constructive criticism. Being direct can certainly have its place, but they went beyond being direct. They were, quite often, simply mean.

There's just no reason to do that, and the moderators acted accordingly.

Kudos to them...
 
I don't know what happened in this situation but this type thing seems to be happening so often, threads being locked, posts deleted, someone being banned etc. I don't think actions like that may be as effective as they could be when getting used so much.

People have made comments about there being a culture on here and I can't help but wonder if some of what happens on here has gotten so it's become accepted as just the way it is. I know a couple of photographers who told me they used to be on here but aren't much anymore and that the site has developed 'a reputation'. I think it would be worth TPF management taking a look at why this happens so often and how things might be changed to help make the site better.
 
Does it really happen that often? Putting aside spam, cross-posting, etc, I doubt if we lock more than a few threads a week on average. Given our membership and the number of threads started here each day, I think that's pretty darn good. As for banning... again, discounting spambots, etc, one a month? Maybe!
 
I don't know what happened in this situation but this type thing seems to be happening so often, threads being locked, posts deleted, someone being banned etc. I don't think actions like that may be as effective as they could be when getting used so much.

People have made comments about there being a culture on here and I can't help but wonder if some of what happens on here has gotten so it's become accepted as just the way it is. I know a couple of photographers who told me they used to be on here but aren't much anymore and that the site has developed 'a reputation'. I think it would be worth TPF management taking a look at why this happens so often and how things might be changed to help make the site better.

I don't see how you can say it's "accepted" and "not effective" when there's a pages-long thread about a longtime member being banned. That action has certainly brought the issue to the forefront, don't you think?

What things would need to change?

Should we permit people to continue to berate and demean others for no reason?

I'm just interested in how you think things could be changed because, frankly, I don't see any problem areas, administration-wise. The problems come from members who have an unwavering need to be dicks sometimes. I think this thread is evidence that management deals with those people.

I used to be a member of a forum (non-photography) which had very few rules. The #1 rule, however, was "Be nice". That could be both good and bad, but someone like Charlie would've been banned long ago.

That said, I would truly be interested, as would the moderating team, I'm sure, in what you think could or should be changed...
 
It might be interesting to some to note that thread locks, post deletions, and member bans of any kind are only done for one reason....

Someone(s) not following TPF rules.

Ignored mod warnings are probably the #1 reason for thread lock. A thread gets nasty, a Mod cleans it up and/or says to keep it clean, Mod gets ignored, thread continues its downward spiral and gets locked, then someone complains about overmoderation.

If there IS a trend of locking threads and banning members here, it isnt the administration you should be looking to for culpability.
 
It might be interesting to some to note that thread locks, post deletions, and member bans of any kind are only done for one reason.... Someone(s) not following TPF rules. Ignored mod warnings are probably the #1 reason for thread lock. A thread gets nasty, a Mod cleans it up and/or says to keep it clean, Mod gets ignored, thread continues its downward spiral and gets locked, then someone complains about overmoderation. If there IS a trend of locking threads and banning members here, it isnt the administration you should be looking to for culpability.

Real talk.
 
I don't know what happened in this situation but this type thing seems to be happening so often, threads being locked, posts deleted, someone being banned etc. I don't think actions like that may be as effective as they could be when getting used so much.

People have made comments about there being a culture on here and I can't help but wonder if some of what happens on here has gotten so it's become accepted as just the way it is. I know a couple of photographers who told me they used to be on here but aren't much anymore and that the site has developed 'a reputation'. I think it would be worth TPF management taking a look at why this happens so often and how things might be changed to help make the site better.

Drunk talk.
 
One other thing that some people might not be aware of is that a private messages can be reported, same as a post.
while Mods can not see PM's between members, if a member reports a PM, its sent to the reported post thread same as any other reported post where it can be reviewed by the mod team. PM's fall under the same guidelines as the rest of the forum, and if someone gets out of line in a PM, they are subject to the same punishments as if they did it in open forum.
(assuming the PM gets reported of course)

This can sometimes lead to punishments being handed out with the forum community not knowing what happened because the infractions were done via PM and not in a thread.
I cant say that this accounts for ALL of the inconsistencies people feel they see with the forums moderation, but i CAN say that it does account for some.
 
One other thing that some people might not be aware of is that a private messages can be reported, same as a post.
while Mods can not see PM's between members, if a member reports a PM, its sent to the reported post thread same as any other reported post where it can be reviewed by the mod team. PM's fall under the same guidelines as the rest of the forum, and if someone gets out of line in a PM, they are subject to the same punishments as if they did it in open forum.
(assuming the PM gets reported of course)

This can sometimes lead to punishments being handed out with the forum community not knowing what happened because the infractions were done via PM and not in a thread.
I cant say that this accounts for ALL of the inconsistencies people feel they see with the forums moderation, but i CAN say that it does account for some.

Oh ****. I'd like to preemptively apologize for the content of my PM's to all of the female members and a few select males.
 
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