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First post here, I have loved taking photo's as snapshots/memories for as long as i can remember but have just recently tried to get into shooting pictures for more "artistic value" or to just take better pictures overall. This is my first time shooting in manual, I shot in RAW with a canon T3i, 15-40mm lense and then edited them a bit but haven't read a lot on editing/photo composition yet.

I also just bought a tripod after realizing some focus issues, so keep in mind these were shot without a tripod and so my focus may be off because of that. I really want to get better so please nit pick as much as possible and i am especially looking at advice for how to better crop/set up the pictures and if they are properly exposed or what could be improved with the exposure. Anyways, I am very interested in doing more landscape photography for now and eventually moving onto other types. Thanks for the critique in advance!

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Welcome to the forum!

#6 is the only shot here that holds my attention. The lines of the geography to the right lead my eyes to the horizon. It could use some PP to really make it "POP" but the composition is good.
 
What would you recommend I look for in landscape pictures to really get that "look all over the picture for a good 30 seconds" feel to it? I have seen other landscape pictures that hold my attention for a long time but do agree that all of these are sort of "glance over" pictures, I am not sure how to get interesting enough subjects so far I guess. One thing that was tough as well is that I went during the day time in the middle of the desert, early morning or late afternoon pictures would probably be a lot easier for lighting i'm guessing, but finding really full and interesting subjects when the land is really sparce seems tough even though i've seen a ton of amazing photos of desert landscapes. It seems like any pictures I take (I took a lot recently at yosemite/yellowstone/zion/bryce/grand tetons on a road trip, didn't know much about my camera yet though and just shot in P and not in raw) do not capture the "wow" factor of being on top of a mountain after a long hike and just look like "oh there are some mountains/cliffs/whatever in the distance and some sky, next one"

Also, what sort of work would you recommend on picture number 6 to improve it? Different cropping or should I be working with brightness/contrast or something else? Really wish there was a sunset or something interesting in the sky for that one as i think it would make it a much more interesting composition with the angle and everything. The middle also looks overexposed to me/like there are too many highlights but I kind of like that it captures the feel of the salt flats (but it leads to a worse composition) since they are pretty damn bleached/white.
 
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For #6 did you use a CPL?

I actually like #7 the best.
 
First get in the practice of using any setting other than "P". I use "A" aperture setting predominantly but will use S or M when need arises. At least this way you will learn your camera. Using P and letting the camera make all the deciisions usually ends up with not capturing what you thought was interesting ;)

As for #6 the refining would be in post process. You really want to shoot RAW if you want that "wow", there's just so much more headroom in a raw file to bring out the effect your mind saw when you pushed the button.

For PP there are a few decent free resources, I personally use CS5 but honestly only know 1% of it's functionality and do most tweaking in curves.
 
I don't really see focusing problems with these. But why would you think your photos are oof because you're not using a tripod? These are all afternoon shots, using iso 100 or 200, you should be easily at f/11 to f/18 and still be up over 125 to 250 shutter speed - giving you sharp focus even if handheld. It's more likely a depth of field problem. You may not be focusing on the right spot. Try focusing about 1/3 of the way into the scene, this should give you good depth of field.
 
I would like to see #7 with some HDR to it
 
Well some of my other photos have had focusing problems, yes I didn't have any with these due to the conditions of shooting but i didn't post some of the focusing issue problems (and maybe i'm nitpicky but i did see a few in these ones due to bad focus point choices). I also liked picture number 7 the best, but i'm not sure what HDR means, would you mind explaining that to me or linking me to resources where i could read about it (I tried reading about it on wikipedia but it still wasn't exactly clear to me after reading about it).

Trevor, I did shoot these in RAW so it does allow for some post processing. I did a bit but haven't read a whole lot about post processing yet and am still in the process of experimenting with what looks good. Hopefully if I mess around with that one enough I'll find something that really clicks in post processing though.

Yes, I did use a CPL for picture 6. I tried it both with and without the CPL to see the difference and definitely liked the CPL more. I've heard that I will get some vignetting from using a polarizing filter on a wide lense but i don't exactly see it in that picture or any other pictures i took on this day.
 
I have to agree with the others #6 is a great photo. Post processing is a practiced art imho. Find a program you like and stick with it. Contrary to most I use Aperture 3 on my iMac vs PShop.
 
I like #6 the best, but I like #7 also. The rest do nothing for me.
 
I think you should take some time to really look at your images now that you have people telling you that they like #6 and #7 (I mostly like #7, but I can see the interest in #6 as well. Compare them to 1-5 and take note of the fundamental differences. Color, contrast (either color or luminance), shape, design... let me go through each of your images as I see them with these 4 attributes in mind. This is just my opinion and may be right, wrong, or neither, but hopefully will give you something to think about.
These are merely observations, I'm not rating anything as good or bad at this point.

1.
Color: Very warm color that dominates the image. The greens of the leaves are similar to the earth tones surrounding them.
Contrast: The rails and mine are in fairly sharp contrast with the rest of the image because of both color and luminance.
Shape/Design: You have a lopsided triangle formed by the rails in the middle that's surrounded by random "noise" created by the rocks and bushes.

2.
Color: The barrell has a striking green color that contrasts with the rest of the scene and doesn't fit the pallette. The adjacent burnt orange of the barrell is a more saturated version of the environment color. The roof is a rusty maroon, the sky is blue, the ground is a brown and gray speckled with light cyan-green's and more natural greens.
Contrast: Because of the colors, the barrell does contrast well enough against the ground and brush to the left and right. The top of the barrell is starting to blend in with the house, it's difficult to tell what is the barrell's inner shadow and what is the houses shadow. The roof contrasts strongly against the sky, and moderately against the hill.
Shape/Design: The design consists of mostly straight and parallel lines, the only significantly diagnoal line is that of the skyline. The barrell has a strong vertical element and the house roof has a strong horizontal element. Together they form an "L" shape.

3.
Color: N/A
Contrast: the outside window and sunlight contrast strongly against the indoor and middle gray of the interior walls, floor, fridge, and door. Little-to-no detail in highlights, but shadows retain detail. Inside, the fridge, door, and plaster have similar luminance. Floor and ceiling are similar. Back walls are similar.
Shape/Design: Fridge and door for strong vertical composition although door is askew which adds a dynamic element to the image. Distortion is apparent as the fridge and wall studs are "falling away from the image." No lines appear to be either horizontal or vertical.

4.
Color: Strong saturated blue adjacent to relatively unsaturated oxide red on the right, and a bright unsaturated yellow/green on the left. The bottom 2/3 of the image is a speckled covering of various colors and tones, but mostly light. Large gray boulders accent the scene.
Contrast: Strong daylight shadows directly underneath objects. Deep blue sky strongly contrasts with the rest of the scene.
Shape/Design: Two large heavy boulders on the right with the towering mountain ridge, and a light crispy bush/tree on the left, separated by a twisted dead tree in the foreground leading into the image. The sky caps the top of the frame. No strong organization of elements is apparent.

5.
Color: Light yellow and pink dominate the lower right half of the image, and a darker and more saturated brown the upper left. Blue caps the top-left 1/10th.
Contrast: Lower right contrasts strongly with upper left, which contrasts strongly with the sky "cap". 4 small rocks sitting on a boulder in lower right stand out from the rest of the group even though they are out of focus.
Shape/Design: There is a strong diagonal separation in the image, effectively cutting it in half, however the yellow formation in the upper right corner ties both halves together in in shape, luminance, and color. The 4 rocks in the bottom right repeat the diagonal made by the large formation although the line they create is not exactly parallel with the line of the main formation in the middle of the image. This appears to have been purposely done and creates order and reason in the image.

6.
Color: Deep blue mirrored top and bottom, separated by a thin slice white land on the left and a large dark brown/gray hill on the right. The reflection is speckled with matching white dry land patches.
Contrast: The blue sky contrasts strongly with the hill on the right in both luminance and color, but approaches the color and luminance of the dry ground on the left. However, at no point is the horizon remotely indistinguishable. The reflection of the hill and sky in the water mirrors the same contrast of hill and sky.
Shape/Design: The flat horizontal stretch of white land the stretches across the middle of the image gives a strong foundation and horizon line, but the strong diagonal line of the hill creates interest, and the mirrored reflection of the line going the opposite direction accentuates this dynamism even further. The small patches of exposed land in the water in the bottom left quadrant balance the hill on the upper right quadrant. The distant mountain formation on the far left balances against the reflection of the hill in the bottom right quadrant.

7.
Color: Blue sky contrasts strongly against a landscape of complementary yellows and oranges that seem to melt together in the distance. A small group of green bushes in the lower right balances against the red, white, and orange care on the left. The red of the car roof is mirrored by the house in the distance.
Contrast: The sky contrasts strongly against the landscape as described above (color, not luminance). The car color contrasts strongly against everything in the picture except for the house(s) in the distance the and the few brighter rocks to the right.
Shape/Design: The shape of the car is similar to the shape of the distant hills, and the colors of the car are very similar to the structures behind it (which give a sense of depth).

As for critique, I think #6 and #7 are winners because they are simple compositions and simple color pallettes. I personally like #7 better because it's easier on the eyes but as you have considered, in better light, they'd be better images. #4 and #5 are suffering from really bright ground which is similar to shooting snow or sand... it's tough. If you have CS5, you can do exposure masks with the RAW file which is very helpful for this issue. If not, you could take multiple exposures and blend them with a mask.
 
I agree #6 is a great photo but does need some PP to make it pop, also they all look overexposed, so you might want to maybe shoot in A or S priority first and adjust the settings to get the exposure right.

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