do you frown upon lightroom?

[Rwsphotos]

Sounds exactly the same to me but then im a photographer not a writer. No wait I must be a soccer mom I have a DSLR not a film camera. And yes trolls usually do offend. Guess our forum isn't dramatic enough so you created your own congrats Troll.

 

[hrmnothnx]

This is like saying an author is not an author if they use a computer and word processing program instead of a pen and paper. Guess those of use with digital cameras are sol for processing cause last I checked the chemicals used in a dark room were harmful to electronics. TROLL much?

that is one of the worst attempts at parallel analogy i have ever read, work on it a bit and i will respond.

i think i have offended many of you by insulting the crutch that separates your work from what a soccer mom can do, but wait for the lightroom app then you will be equals

so what do YOU process your photos with? are you saying you do NO post work at all?
i doubt you invented wet processing, so you must use predetermined mixes and ratios.
your cheating just as much as the rest of us. except your just not smart enough to realize it.
speaking of terrible analogies...you cant even accept the fact that darkroom processing is the same as any digital process.
seriously man, if you arent able to grasp the concept of digital processing, or have the ability to use it..its ok. not everyone is computer savy enough to use LR or PS. you dont have to troll here to boost your analog ego. we will still love you as a photographer.

ugh it sickens me that someone like who you seems to understand the darkroom process like yourself can have so little respect for it... chemicals mixtures are what invented photography they go hand in hand. cameras and computers and lightroom dont go hand in hand photography exists without it.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

i wish you understood reading comprehension better i never actually said it was more pure or superior i was simply saying it was DIFFERENT and there should be a line drawn in the professionalism of it

I wish you understood logic better.

Like the logic that every photo is a visual representation of what we see, and whether you're developing the darkroom or Lightroom, it's all the same. Your argument is inherently weak, because either way the photo is being developed. Who are you or anyone else to draw the line in the sand?

 

[hrmnothnx]

i wish you understood reading comprehension better i never actually said it was more pure or superior i was simply saying it was DIFFERENT and there should be a line drawn in the professionalism of it

I wish you understood logic better.

Like the logic that every photo is a visual representation of what we see, and whether you're developing the darkroom or Lightroom, it's all the same. Your argument is inherently weak, because either way the photo is being developed. Who are you or anyone else to draw the line in the sand?

you need to watch the digital rev videos where they take photos with **** cameras and get similar results to what you get with an amazing camera and lightroom.. the difference between pros and hobbyists right there

 

[Rick58]

Ansel Adams: "There’s no end in sight. Electronic photography will soon be superior to anything we have now. The first advance will be the exploration of existing negatives. I believe the electronic processes will enhance them. I could get superior prints from my negatives using electronics. Then the time will come when you will be able to make the entire photograph electronically. With the extremely high resolution and the enormous control you can get from electronics, the results will be fantastic. I wish I were young again!"

Huh, I guess our noobie has higher standards then Mr. Adams

 

[hrmnothnx]

didnt know mr. adams was the definition of a photography, maybe hes just another idiot with an opinion like me, only difference is you subscribe to his

 

[pixmedic]

that is one of the worst attempts at parallel analogy i have ever read, work on it a bit and i will respond.

i think i have offended many of you by insulting the crutch that separates your work from what a soccer mom can do, but wait for the lightroom app then you will be equals

so what do YOU process your photos with? are you saying you do NO post work at all?
i doubt you invented wet processing, so you must use predetermined mixes and ratios.
your cheating just as much as the rest of us. except your just not smart enough to realize it.
speaking of terrible analogies...you cant even accept the fact that darkroom processing is the same as any digital process.
seriously man, if you arent able to grasp the concept of digital processing, or have the ability to use it..its ok. not everyone is computer savy enough to use LR or PS. you dont have to troll here to boost your analog ego. we will still love you as a photographer.

ugh it sickens me that someone like who you seems to understand the darkroom process like yourself can have so little respect for it... chemicals mixtures are what invented photography they go hand in hand. cameras and computers and lightroom dont go hand in hand photography exists without it.

chemical mixtures go hand in hand with FILM development, and the processing that goes along with it. editing programs go hand in hand with DIGITAL photography, and the processing that goes along with it. you are talking about two very different roads to the same endpoint. photography now exists without any chemical mixtures or film. they are two different mediums, but the END result is still the same, no matter how you came to it.

just like you can write a book without ever having picked up a pen or pencil and put it to paper. doesn't make the literature any less than what it is. by YOUR standards, even film photography is cheating. why aren't you capturing peoples likeness with paint and canvass? why are you letting a machine do all the creating?

 

[Overread]

i wish you understood reading comprehension better i never actually said it was more pure or superior i was simply saying it was DIFFERENT and there should be a line drawn in the professionalism of it

I wish you understood logic better.

Like the logic that every photo is a visual representation of what we see, and whether you're developing the darkroom or Lightroom, it's all the same. Your argument is inherently weak, because either way the photo is being developed. Who are you or anyone else to draw the line in the sand?

you need to watch the digital rev videos where they take photos with **** cameras and get similar results to what you get with an amazing camera and lightroom.. the difference between pros and hobbyists right there

I'd like to see links to those videos. I've yet to see any of their cheap camera pro photographer challenges come up with images which could compete on par with professional digital equipment*


* at least if the competition ground is based upon real world prints or enlargements online - if we are just comparing quality at youtube quality and scale then yeah its not much of a competing ground although you still won't get subject isolation on a tiny camera the same as you will with a larger sensor or film size.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

you need to watch the digital rev videos where they take photos with **** cameras and get similar results to what you get with an amazing camera and lightroom.. the difference between pros and hobbyists right there

Just utter nonsense. You can't be serious.

Oh well, I'm writing you off as a troll now. Enjoy your pointless thread.

 

[2WheelPhoto]

this thread has win all over it

I don't "frown upon" any tools.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

didnt know mr. adams was the definition of a photography, maybe hes just another idiot with an opinion like me, only difference is you subscribe to his

Yeah, one of the most famous and decorated photographers of all time-- your opinion and his are equal, right? :lmao:

 

[pixmedic]

you need to watch the digital rev videos where they take photos with **** cameras and get similar results to what you get with an amazing camera and lightroom.. the difference between pros and hobbyists right there

Just utter nonsense. You can't be serious.

Oh well, I'm writing you off as a troll now. Enjoy your pointless thread.

yea, this is obviously someone that started that account here just to start this troll thread. i doubt they are even a real photographer, they just looked up a few "buzzwords". was a bit obvious when they had NO way to show any of their work here.

 

[hrmnothnx]

so what do YOU process your photos with? are you saying you do NO post work at all?
i doubt you invented wet processing, so you must use predetermined mixes and ratios.
your cheating just as much as the rest of us. except your just not smart enough to realize it.
speaking of terrible analogies...you cant even accept the fact that darkroom processing is the same as any digital process.
seriously man, if you arent able to grasp the concept of digital processing, or have the ability to use it..its ok. not everyone is computer savy enough to use LR or PS. you dont have to troll here to boost your analog ego. we will still love you as a photographer.

ugh it sickens me that someone like who you seems to understand the darkroom process like yourself can have so little respect for it... chemicals mixtures are what invented photography they go hand in hand. cameras and computers and lightroom dont go hand in hand photography exists without it.

chemical mixtures go hand in hand with FILM development, and the processing that goes along with it. editing programs go hand in hand with DIGITAL photography, and the processing that goes along with it. you are talking about two very different roads to the same endpoint. photography now exists without any chemical mixtures or film. they are two different mediums, but the END result is still the same, no matter how you came to it.

just like you can write a book without ever having picked up a pen or pencil and put it to paper. doesn't make the literature any less than what it is. by YOUR standards, even film photography is cheating. why aren't you capturing peoples likeness with paint and canvass? why are you letting a machine do all the creating?

you had me sort of following you until the end it got very apples to oranges.... let me ask you this.. say i brought an image into illustrator tweaked a live trace into pathes, then used the paths with a robotic arm to trace the paths onto a canvas... am i a painter? or am i some sort of engineer at that point?

 

[pixmedic]

ugh it sickens me that someone like who you seems to understand the darkroom process like yourself can have so little respect for it... chemicals mixtures are what invented photography they go hand in hand. cameras and computers and lightroom dont go hand in hand photography exists without it.

chemical mixtures go hand in hand with FILM development, and the processing that goes along with it. editing programs go hand in hand with DIGITAL photography, and the processing that goes along with it. you are talking about two very different roads to the same endpoint. photography now exists without any chemical mixtures or film. they are two different mediums, but the END result is still the same, no matter how you came to it.

just like you can write a book without ever having picked up a pen or pencil and put it to paper. doesn't make the literature any less than what it is. by YOUR standards, even film photography is cheating. why aren't you capturing peoples likeness with paint and canvass? why are you letting a machine do all the creating?

you had me sort of following you until the end it got very apples to oranges.... let me ask you this.. say i brought an image into illustrator tweaked a live trace into pathes, then used the paths with a robotic arm to trace the paths onto a canvas... am i a painter? or am i some sort of engineer at that point?

see, your asking the wrong questions. the question is NOT whether you are a painter, or a photographer...
the question IS...did you get the result you envisioned? or that your client envisioned? if the answer is "yes", and everyone is happy, what difference does it make what you label yourself?

 

[hrmnothnx]

LOL ok im about to leave work for the day.. i admit i am an epic troll, had most of you going for 4 pages! hahahah but i am a troll who is into photography and i do firmly believe lightroom is a MASSIVE crutch for the talentless and if you deny that lightroom shortens the gap between talent and hobbyist then odds are your talentless.