hmmm, the second, being black and white is hard to tell but perhaps a 7' Mega Four... but it can't unless it was sheathed down to a two line from a quad line. Yeah, I'm a big kite fanatic. Great shots no matter what they are. Unfortunately I don't have a good pic of the flexi stack I used to fly but I used to get a friend's tri-stack of Flexi Super 10's (10' x 2'... three of 'em stacked = more power than you could imagine). It's always fun to see others enjoying a sport that can be both energetic and soothing at the same time. **now if only I could get people to stay out from under my lines. They don't think there's any power behind 'em but what about when I go 12-15' in the air, come down and the shock from my body hitting the ground vs the pull from the tri-stack breaks 800lb kevlar line (not to mention the gale warning that I didn't know about but still, kites can be dangerous).