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Hi,
We currently own a Canon EOS 30D body and a number of Canon lens. My wife travels with an enormous gear bag as a result and is quite happy to do so. I, on the other hand simply take my small Canon point-and-shoot (Powershot S95) but it is quite limited in what it can do (e.g. maxes out at F8). I would NEVER carry a large bag of kit like she does. I am trained from film days (Nikormat from the 1970s) to shoot manually and I frequently shoot fully manual or with aperture priority modes.
So I am looking for a camera that will be good to travel with that is SMALLER and LIGHTER than our DSLR. It can be a great camera like a Canon EOS 6D or Nikon D600 but at that size and weight, particularly with good glass it WILL NOT BE USED. I will leave it at home. This has led me to look at a number of the mirrorless options available today. I also have been looking into the range of lens available as well, because youre really buying into both a body and the associated glass.
I also shoot staged still life photography of my mechanical wristwatches which I collect and also my guitars. I do a bunch of detailed macro here with diffused lighting using my Wife's DSLR with a 60 mm Macro. I would like to buy a macro lens and use my new camera for this as well. I am concerned that the type of depth of fields that I use to control focus may not be the same in these non-DSLT options.
After looking at offerings from Canon, Fujifilm, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic and Sony; I am focused on two alternative cameras:
1) Fujifilm X-Pro 1
2) Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3
I have been really looking into size and weight of these camera systems to get a sense of size and weight savings over an equivalent cost DSLR with a typical standard zoom lens on:
Canon EOS 7D + EF 24-70 mm F4 lens (38-112 mm effective)
Weight: 1416g (816 g body + 600 g lens)
Size: 147 x 112 x 74 mm
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 + GX Vario 12-35 F2.8 Lens (24-70 mm effective)
Weight: 855g (550g body + 305g lens)
Size: 132 x 94 x 81 mm
FujiFilm X-Pro 1 + XF 18-55 mm F2.8-4 Lens (36-110 effective)
Weight: 780g (450g body + 330g lens)
Size: 140 x 81 x 43 mm
So both models assembled with a standard zoom lens are 55-60% of the weight of the full frame Canon DSLR. Size wise, the Fuji is thinner and both are slightly shorter but are as wide as a DSLR.
The lenses for each that look interesting are:
Lumix:
12-35 mm (24-70 mm) F2.8
45 mm (90 mm) F2.8 Macro
Fujifilm:
18-55 mm (27-84 mm) F2.8-F4
60 mm (90 mm) F2.4 Macro
Even looking at the list of planned glass for 2013, the Lumix line-up seems more robust albeit more expensive. The GH3 is slightly larger and heavier than the Fujifilm, but is still about 40% lighter than a DSLR in a weatherproof body. The question is when I handle it, is it small enough to travel with? For example, even a smaller pro/consumer DSLR with a plastic body is only slightly lighter than an EOS 6D:
Nikon D5200 + Nikkor 17-55 F2.8 lens
Weight: 1310g (555 g body + 755 g lens)
Size: 129 x 98 x 78 mm
An equivalently outfitted Lumix (the heavier of the two) is still 35% lighter mostly due to the 4/3 glass vs the body which is similar in size and weight albeit the Lumix is more robustly constructed (weight in DSLR body is Penta-prism I suppose).
So what say you? Between these cameras and lens families which is better based on my needs?
Or should I consider something else given my needs/goals?
Thanks,
Bob
We currently own a Canon EOS 30D body and a number of Canon lens. My wife travels with an enormous gear bag as a result and is quite happy to do so. I, on the other hand simply take my small Canon point-and-shoot (Powershot S95) but it is quite limited in what it can do (e.g. maxes out at F8). I would NEVER carry a large bag of kit like she does. I am trained from film days (Nikormat from the 1970s) to shoot manually and I frequently shoot fully manual or with aperture priority modes.
So I am looking for a camera that will be good to travel with that is SMALLER and LIGHTER than our DSLR. It can be a great camera like a Canon EOS 6D or Nikon D600 but at that size and weight, particularly with good glass it WILL NOT BE USED. I will leave it at home. This has led me to look at a number of the mirrorless options available today. I also have been looking into the range of lens available as well, because youre really buying into both a body and the associated glass.
I also shoot staged still life photography of my mechanical wristwatches which I collect and also my guitars. I do a bunch of detailed macro here with diffused lighting using my Wife's DSLR with a 60 mm Macro. I would like to buy a macro lens and use my new camera for this as well. I am concerned that the type of depth of fields that I use to control focus may not be the same in these non-DSLT options.
After looking at offerings from Canon, Fujifilm, Nikon, Olympus, Panasonic and Sony; I am focused on two alternative cameras:
1) Fujifilm X-Pro 1
2) Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3
I have been really looking into size and weight of these camera systems to get a sense of size and weight savings over an equivalent cost DSLR with a typical standard zoom lens on:
Canon EOS 7D + EF 24-70 mm F4 lens (38-112 mm effective)
Weight: 1416g (816 g body + 600 g lens)
Size: 147 x 112 x 74 mm
Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH3 + GX Vario 12-35 F2.8 Lens (24-70 mm effective)
Weight: 855g (550g body + 305g lens)
Size: 132 x 94 x 81 mm
FujiFilm X-Pro 1 + XF 18-55 mm F2.8-4 Lens (36-110 effective)
Weight: 780g (450g body + 330g lens)
Size: 140 x 81 x 43 mm
So both models assembled with a standard zoom lens are 55-60% of the weight of the full frame Canon DSLR. Size wise, the Fuji is thinner and both are slightly shorter but are as wide as a DSLR.
The lenses for each that look interesting are:
Lumix:
12-35 mm (24-70 mm) F2.8
45 mm (90 mm) F2.8 Macro
Fujifilm:
18-55 mm (27-84 mm) F2.8-F4
60 mm (90 mm) F2.4 Macro
Even looking at the list of planned glass for 2013, the Lumix line-up seems more robust albeit more expensive. The GH3 is slightly larger and heavier than the Fujifilm, but is still about 40% lighter than a DSLR in a weatherproof body. The question is when I handle it, is it small enough to travel with? For example, even a smaller pro/consumer DSLR with a plastic body is only slightly lighter than an EOS 6D:
Nikon D5200 + Nikkor 17-55 F2.8 lens
Weight: 1310g (555 g body + 755 g lens)
Size: 129 x 98 x 78 mm
An equivalently outfitted Lumix (the heavier of the two) is still 35% lighter mostly due to the 4/3 glass vs the body which is similar in size and weight albeit the Lumix is more robustly constructed (weight in DSLR body is Penta-prism I suppose).
So what say you? Between these cameras and lens families which is better based on my needs?
Or should I consider something else given my needs/goals?
Thanks,
Bob