getting 1st DSLR, cropped sensor?????

[allison_dcp]

Well I've finally decided of the Canon EOS 20d. I have a pretty limited budget.
I'm used to shooting 35mm film canonT50 which is(im assuming) full frame.
Will I be completely dissapointed with the change to crop sensor?

 

[SCraig]

Assuming, since you said "30mm film" instead of "35mm film" you haven't been shooting a great deal so in all honesty you'll probably not notice much difference. Short lenses will seem longer but that's really about all.

 

[allison_dcp]

Assuming, since you said "30mm film" instead of "35mm film" you haven't been shooting a great deal so in all honesty you'll probably not notice much difference. Short lenses will seem longer but that's really about all.

Dur.... thanks

 

[MLeeK]

I use both a crop and a full frame and you won't really feel it a whole lot. I know if I need more reach I go for the crop sensor, otherwise? Not really that big a deal.

 

[Derrel]

Yeah...I still have my 20D...it does okay!!! It's an easy-to-shoot camera with good battery life. I would like to point out that the EOS digitals can use "adapted lenses" with lens mount adapters...so if you are on a budget, you could buy an inexpensive lens adapter from Fotodiox's web site, and use that to mount, say, a used Goodwill or KEH.com "beater" 55mm f/3.5 Micro~Nikkor macro lens on that 20D and have a GOOD, solid, 55mm macro lens for like $35 or so if you buy one in BGN condition. Canon EOS bodies can use adapted lenses from 7 different lens mount families!!! I bought a NICE, really NICE OLympus 28mm f/2.8 wide-angle lens with rubber lens shade and Tiffen polarizer earlier this summer for $29 from a pawn shop across town. It's about a 30 year-old lens. GOOD imager too! SMALL as heck! LIGHT!

I recently payed $10 for a Pentax m42, thread mount 55mm f/2 manual focus lens, with a set of three Vivitar m42 screw-mount extension tubes at a local Goodwill. I payed $9.95 for the four items!!! The old manual focus 55mm lens makes a prertty danged decent macro setup with the extension tubes AND it's a decent "short telephoto" lens on a 1.6x FOV camera like the 20D. I got a no-name 35mm f/2.8 wide-angle lens for $12 last summer at a garage sale, also in M42 mount. Pretty decent!!! And by "pretty decent" I mean , "about the same image QUALITY as $1699 Canon zoom lens pretty decent, but for $12."

You will enjoy having a d-slr. I know you will. Leverage its strength--and that is the EOS lens mount!!!!

 

[allison_dcp]

Derrel.... Thanks! ALOT of great information.

 

[KmH]

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[Derrel]

Alison,

Canon EOS digital bodies, either FF or APS-C models, can be adapted to so many inexpensive lenses...View attachment 16814View attachment 16831 I just spent a few minutes and quickly put a flash head into the back speedring of an already set-up mini-softbox with grid, and plopped a reflector down by my desk and taped a piece of Office Depot white poster board to the front screen of my iMac to make a "seamless background". I then put down a LOW, low budget lens array that can cover a lot of uses on an older, relatively low-cost $750 Canon 5D FF camera... from left we have the absolutely BEAUTIFULLY-made Vivtar Series 1 55mm f/2.8 macro in M42 thread mount; the 5D "Classic" body with a $17 e-Bay Nikon F-mount-to Canon EF mount adapter on the 24mm f/2.8 Ai-S Nikkor wide-angle on the camera;to the right of the lens on the camera is an Olympus OM system 28mm wide-angle lens; in the back right, the lens closest to the camera is the M42 thread mount Asahi Super-Takumar 135mm f/3.5 with a screw-in lens hood, and the far right lens is the M42 Asahi Super-Takumar 200mm f/4. The wide-angle in the front, far right, is a $13 garage sale lens, an M42 mount Super Lentar 35mm f/2.8 lens.

 

[Solarflare]

I cant see why you would be disappointed.

Its really just that you need to apply a 1.5 crop factor to the focal lenghts if you want the same angle of view.

So a 35mm has the angel of view of a 53mm on a full frame etc.

Thats all.

The disadvantage of digital is that digital doesnt offer the reserves film has. If its overexposed, its overexposed - end of story.

The advantage of digital is that you can instantly see what you shot, you can fix colors freely without the use of physical color filters, you can use very low ISO, and you can shoot endlessly with zip cost, and you can use a digital darkroom with much more possibilities than the film darkroom, no stinking chemicals, and it doesnt need to be dark either.



P.s.: Ooops, actually its 1.6 crop factor. Canon uses 1.6 crop factor, not 1.5 like Nikon.

P.p.s.: Oh, and in the long run digital will probably be full frame, too. Nikon already will publish a cheaper full frame, the D600, in the next weeks, and Canon will most likely follow soon as well.