Grave Yard By Deon Hamilton™

[leeroix]

Looks like a pretty miserable place to be laid to rest...

 

[sashbar]

Great, another person that puts their name in every thread title.

I would not put these two guys in the same league.

 

[yahgiggle]

I did a crop and left it in color, is this any better, to me i like the black and white more

 

[weags77]

I did a crop and left it in color, is this any better, to me i like the black and white more
<img src="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=62875"/>

I like the edited one better. While I think you could have composed the original shot better in camera by keeping the horizon away from the grave on the right (maybe shoot it from a lower perspective), the cropped and color version works better for me. I think moving the horizon to the upper part of the photo gave the foreground visual priority and the color gives it more depth.

What do you think about the edit besides preferring B&W ? Is there any difference between how you see the two photos ?

 

[yahgiggle]

I did a crop and left it in color, is this any better, to me i like the black and white more
<img src="http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/attachments/black-white-gallery/62875-grave-yard-deon-hamilton-dsc_2870.jpg"/>

I like the edited one better. While I think you could have composed the original shot better in camera by keeping the horizon away from the grave on the right (maybe shoot it from a lower perspective), the cropped and color version works better for me. I think moving the horizon to the upper part of the photo gave the foreground visual priority and the color gives it more depth.

What do you think about the edit besides preferring B&W ? Is there any difference between how you see the two photos ?

yep i see it makes this photo more about the grave yard than the sky but i do feel the black and white makes it feel more gloomy.

 

[weags77]

Well at the end of the day that's all that matters. Whichever way you see that best communicates what you're trying to communicate, either in camera or during post.

As a viewer I prefer the color and the new crop. But amolitor liked the B&W. It's subjective and everyone will have their own opinions and reasons why. It's up to you to decide which one best conveys the scene as you want us to see it.

 

[paigew]

I like the color version better. To me, in the b/w everything blends together. I don't particularly care for the composition. I probably would have gotten a lot lower when I shot this.

 

[runnah]

Bw version has too many similar tones in close proximity. Darkening the water and sky would help bring the attention of the viewer to the right spot.

 

[Centropolis]

I think this picture is "too busy" for me. I don't know where I should be looking at. If you're trying to make a picture to give the idea of a scary place to be....then I would zoom out a bit to get more of the tombstones to give more eerie feel.

In the B&W version, the sky is blown out so you should do some localized adjustments there or just crop to less sky.

 

[JTPhotography]

Wondering if you guys are missing the funniest part of the OP's post..... "Before you judge Negative, Please provide your own similar work for a positive example", then asks for critique.

OP, do you only want positive comments???

Here are my comments, the photo doesn't work and suffers from several fatal flaws.

1. Too many blown highlights.
2. Centered horizon. Composition 101
3. The flared out levels of the two tall structures are even with the horizon. A depth killer.
4. Cluttered foreground. There is so much going on there, barely anything is distinguishable.
5. Looks to me like you shot this standing up, from eye level. You just can't shoot a scene like that. Here, you need to vary your perspective and experiment with DOF, or else all of your photos will look like a jumbled mess.

As for the trademark, it is just odd, even more bizarre than when you see these people start watermarking thier photos a week after buying their first DSLR from the Sam's Club.

 

[DanielLewis76]

yep i see it makes this photo more about the grave yard than the sky but i do feel the black and white makes it feel more gloomy.

IMHO a photo is about everything in it and how those parts interact with one another. You can't just ignore the sky section because you think the photo is about the graves.

 

[yahgiggle]

Wondering if you guys are missing the funniest part of the OP's post..... "Before you judge Negative, Please provide your own similar work for a positive example", then asks for critique.

OP, do you only want positive comments???

Here are my comments, the photo doesn't work and suffers from several fatal flaws.

1. Too many blown highlights.
2. Centered horizon. Composition 101
3. The flared out levels of the two tall structures are even with the horizon. A depth killer.
4. Cluttered foreground. There is so much going on there, barely anything is distinguishable.
5. Looks to me like you shot this standing up, from eye level. You just can't shoot a scene like that. Here, you need to vary your perspective and experiment with DOF, or else all of your photos will look like a jumbled mess.

As for the trademark, it is just odd, even more bizarre than when you see these people start watermarking thier photos a week after buying their first DSLR from the Sam's Club.

i am posting my photos here so people will give Negative feedback i like good feedback but really i am after the Negative ones. all i am asking is if your going to make a Negative comment to also provide your own similar work for a positive example of what your talking about to show me how i should be doing it ;-D for the naming and the &#8482; if you have a problem with it that's your own problem not mine. i don't do photos to make money its JUST a hobby so im not worried if anyone took my photos, not that anyone would want them anyway lol but at lest they will know who took them unlike many of you silly buggers who don't put your name on anything. also ive always been told to name your work ;-P

 

[JTPhotography]

Wondering if you guys are missing the funniest part of the OP's post..... "Before you judge Negative, Please provide your own similar work for a positive example", then asks for critique.

OP, do you only want positive comments???

Here are my comments, the photo doesn't work and suffers from several fatal flaws.

1. Too many blown highlights.
2. Centered horizon. Composition 101
3. The flared out levels of the two tall structures are even with the horizon. A depth killer.
4. Cluttered foreground. There is so much going on there, barely anything is distinguishable.
5. Looks to me like you shot this standing up, from eye level. You just can't shoot a scene like that. Here, you need to vary your perspective and experiment with DOF, or else all of your photos will look like a jumbled mess.

As for the trademark, it is just odd, even more bizarre than when you see these people start watermarking thier photos a week after buying their first DSLR from the Sam's Club.

i am posting my photos here so people will give Negative feedback i like good feedback but really i am after the Negative ones. all i am asking is if your going to make a Negative comment to also provide your own similar work for a positive example of what your talking about to show me how i should be doing it ;-D for the naming and the &#8482; if you have a problem with it that's your own problem not mine. i don't do photos to make money its JUST a hobby so im not worried if anyone took my photos, not that anyone would want them anyway lol but at lest they will know who took them unlike many of you silly buggers who don't put your name on anything. also ive always been told to name your work ;-P

I gave you plenty of negative comments and didn't provide you with an example, if you don't like that then that is your problem. Consider yourself lucky that better photographers are willing to give you feedback at all, arrogantly expecting them to do even more will get you nowhere. In fact, it will make people dislike you. Can you see that is already happening?

 

[weags77]

i am posting my photos here so people will give Negative feedback i like good feedback but really i am after the Negative ones. all i am asking is if your going to make a Negative comment to also provide your own similar work for a positive example of what your talking about to show me how i should be doing it ;-D for the naming and the &trade; if you have a problem with it that's your own problem not mine. i don't do photos to make money its JUST a hobby so im not worried if anyone took my photos, not that anyone would want them anyway lol but at lest they will know who took them unlike many of you silly buggers who don't put your name on anything. also ive always been told to name your work ;-P

What you SHOULD do is allow us to edit your photos so that we can give you positive examples using your own work. Asking someone to post one of their photos to illustrate how to correct your photos just isn't gonna help you all that much. As you will find out, or hopefully are finding out, their are many things that go into making a good photo. You can't just get by snapping photos with poor composition or with crappy light and expect to fix all that in post. Especially when you don't like to "photoshop".

You want examples of how to do things "right" then do yourself a favor and look at some of the amazing images people post here on a daily basis. Or anywhere else on the web.

As I've said before and still stand by, take a moment to let what's been told to you sink in. Learn, read, practice and observe. Post a photo every now and then with what you've learned and see if anyone else feels you've made progress in the areas that are CONSTANTLY being told you need work on, i.e mainly composition.

I think what most people here get annoyed with is someone posting a ton of images asking, how can I make this better, getting advice, and then putting up another bunch of photos that show that no thought has been given to any of the advice previously mentioned.

You NEED to learn composition, the basic fundamentals of it. Im not basing my opinion off of one photo. Ive looked at almost ALL of your threads and composition is your number one problem in almost all of them. I've given you books and tips as have others.

It's up to you now where you go from here. You will learn NOTHING expecting others to show you how to do things with their own work. Experiment, it's frickin digital for crying out loud. Shoot a thousand pictures to get one good one if need be. Put some effort into it and you might be surprised at the results.

I mean honestly if I was you I wouldn't post a single photo until I've read up on some composition and put it into practice. It's hard to tell someone what to look for when they have no idea what you're talking about. Just telling you about the rule of thirds wont help you if you don't understand why you should know about It. And honestly, as a photographer at any stage of development, if you are not even aware of basic composition fundamentals, you are going to have a hard time learning it. Learn how to compose, expose and develop on that order. Then ask questions from there.

It's not that I don't think you can benefit from our help, it's that I just don't see you as someone that has put that much time into learning for yourself.

 

[HughGuessWho]

... Consider yourself lucky that better photographers are willing to give you feedback at all, arrogantly expecting them to do even more will get you nowhere. In fact, it will make people dislike you. Can you see that is already happening?

Pot, meet Kettle...