Hey Kids! It's frivolous lawsuit time!

[Aloicious]

Among the annals of fantastically frivolous lawsuits like the guy who started a class action against subway because his footlong sub wasnt a full 12" long, or the lady that filed against Sears for accidentally being charged $2 in sales tax when she had an exemption...we now have....THE D600 DUST LAWSUIT! join in the frivolous fun TODAY! Nikon D600 Dust Spot Issue

is it just me? this seems absolutely stupid and a potential clog on the legal system....for a dirty sensor...maybe the attorney purchased a D600, got some dust on the sensor (could be completely normal), typed in 'D600 dust' into google and now wants to stamp his feet and throw a tantrum because he thinks he's been cheated...even reading the lawsuit statement is comical...for example "Nikon released the new model D610 camera - perceived by many to be identical to the D600"...really? apparently being "perceived by many" is legal precedence now...ignore the feature changes, granted it wasn't a HUGE change, but certainly not "identical to the D600" as they claim...

Okay, so for those who did have the oil issue, yeah its a bummer, but mass produced items will always run the risk of small imperfections like that, I understand you got the shaft if you got one with the issue, but even Nikon offered information on it, and from my understanding, actually replaced shutters, under warranty, for those who did have the issue, which seems reasonable to me....an inconvenience, absolutely, but hardly legal recourse IMO. I could see them claiming the issue as a loss in resell value on the D600 for current owners after the D610 was released, but they aren't claiming that in the case.

if they wanted to sue Nikon, why not go after false 'impact damage' claims voiding warranty? that at least has some legitimate litigious backing, but I'm guessing the sample size was probably miniscule, and too time consuming to prove the false claim which could eat into the attorney's take-home pay...where this way anyone who has a dust spot on their D600 sensor can get a piece of the action! (regardless of if it was natural or caused by the shutter, because after all, how could they prove that?)

but what could you expect from the same firm who is currently going after Yoplait claiming their greek yogurt is "neither greek, nor technically yogurt" because they added milk protein to it! Call the cops!...Yoplait Greek Yogurt Lawsuit

...or taking on payday loans, because the have....high interest rates!...Holy S**T! who would have known! Bank Cash Advance Loans | Payday Loans

/rant off

Okay okay okay...I know I'm flying off the handle on something that doesn't even affect me as a non-D600 owner. but stuff like this really gets to me since all it will do is line the attorney's pockets with money, get those actually affected by the issue practically nothing, clog the legal system wasting time and taxpayer money, and raise product costs on everything else for the rest of us...

where's a picture of the 'Don't sue people Panda' mascot from South park when you need it....ah, here we go:
[video]http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/151321/public-service-announcement[/video]

EDIt- I'm not sure if this would fall under one of the 'taboo' subjects on the forum here like religion or guns...just to be clear, I'm not making a political statement, or argument, just ranting about something that affects all us DSLR users, especially nikon ones...mods, if you don't think this is appropriate, you can delete/lock/move/whatever this thread, I'm not going to get offended or anything.

 

[EIngerson]

I agree with you. I hope Nikon goes all "Rich corporate level" on this turd and drains this guys life savings with years of drawn out court fees while winning the case.

 

[Aloicious]

no need for all that, I just hope it gets thrown out in court, or better yet, doesn't even make it that far...the time and money nikon has to waste in court would just get passed on to consumers via price increases and further delay things we all want like R&D, etc...

 

[EIngerson]

no need for all that, I just hope it gets thrown out in court, or better yet, doesn't even make it that far...the time and money nikon has to waste in court would just get passed on to consumers via price increases and further delay things we all want like R&D, etc...

I'm okay with that, I shoot Canon. lol

 

[Aloicious]

don't think that just because this specific case is against nikon doesn't mean it wont affect canon and every other manufacturer too.

 

[robbins.photo]

Woohooo! I love frivolous lawsuit time. Wait, I need a funny hat.

Ok, got it.

In all seriousness of course, sadly we've gotten to the point where a lot of folks honestly believe that anytime they are inconvenienced or everything doesn't go according to plan that they should sue. My guess is this will be some sort of class action lawsuit, and as anyone can tell you the only people who make money in a class action suit are the lawyers. But hey, I knew Western Civilization was doomed when Barney the Dinosaur sued the San Diego Chicken. If your legal system can put up with that kind of silliness it's time to stick a fork in it, cause it's done.

 

[manaheim]

I seem to recall the dust being significant oil spots... that seems sort of nontrivial and I can understand going after Nikon over it. But I've not researched it, and am not gonna. lol

 

[runnah]

I seem to recall the dust being significant oil spots... that seems sort of nontrivial and I can understand going after Nikon over it. But I've not researched it, and am not gonna. lol

I think fixing the issue for free is more than enough on Nikon's part.

**** like this makes me want to live in the woods far away from other people. Oh wait, I already do.

 

[manaheim]

Yeah... I guess I can't argue that.

I guess I'm more "I understand the frustration", and not really so much "HEY! SUE NIKON!"

I think some of the ire comes from the fact that it seems like Nikon is a little slow to react to some problems. Similar issue that I had with my D800 and the focusing challenges.

 

[runnah]

Yeah... I guess I can't argue that.

I guess I'm more "I understand the frustration", and not really so much "HEY! SUE NIKON!"

I think some of the ire comes from the fact that it seems like Nikon is a little slow to react to some problems. Similar issue that I had with my D800 and the focusing challenges.

Well the biggest harm you can do it to not buy their products and spread the word. Suing them does nothing but cost you money, clog the system and make you look like an *******.

 

[astroNikon]

I have dust all over my house.
now I'm wondering if it's from the camera ?

where do I sign up !!

 

[Aloicious]

Yeah... I guess I can't argue that.

I guess I'm more "I understand the frustration", and not really so much "HEY! SUE NIKON!"

I think some of the ire comes from the fact that it seems like Nikon is a little slow to react to some problems. Similar issue that I had with my D800 and the focusing challenges.

I do totally understand the frustration, really, I do, I'm not trying to seem calloused against those who are upset with the dust issue, but more upset at those who vent their frustrations with a minor inconvenience by damaging the market, stressing the legal system, and passing the buck on other people so they can get their petty "retribution". I saw this posted on another forum and people were praising the lawyer, and yelling about how people need to stick it to nikon so they'll learn a lesson...really? what lesson do they think nikon will learn? its not like nikon maliciously put in bad shutters because they wanted to laugh at their customers...they're a business, they want to create the best products and create loyal users because that is what will make them money...perhaps they pushed the D600 to the customer a little early and should have tested a little longer, but look at the rumor sites clamoring with people wanting the next big thing, its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for them...

slow to react may seem accurate on the consumer end of things, but remember that while people immediately complain on the internet about anything and spread mass hysteria almost instantaneously about problems that may or may not be wide spread, the company needs time to research the problem, document the cases involved, investigate both the cause and possible solutions, test a fix for the problem, and examine the proposed solution's feasibility and plan the implementation before they can announce anything...

 

[astroNikon]

The entire problem with manufacturing is that it is not defect free.

Sure manufacturers during design & development may cut a few corners (some cut out the entire middle) as it's all based on retail price and how much R&D/ returns /warranty cost, projected sales and making sure the entire item cycle project is profitable. Think of how many things have teething problems .. cars, folding chairs/tables from Walmart, computers, roads, airplanes ... and cameras. Go figure.

 

[astroNikon]

Yeah... I guess I can't argue that.

I guess I'm more "I understand the frustration", and not really so much "HEY! SUE NIKON!"

I think some of the ire comes from the fact that it seems like Nikon is a little slow to react to some problems. Similar issue that I had with my D800 and the focusing challenges.

I do totally understand the frustration, really, I do, I'm not trying to seem calloused against those who are upset with the dust issue, but more upset at those who vent their frustrations with a minor inconvenience by damaging the market, stressing the legal system, and passing the buck on other people so they can get their petty "retribution". I saw this posted on another forum and people were praising the lawyer, and yelling about how people need to stick it to nikon so they'll learn a lesson...really? what lesson do they think nikon will learn? its not like nikon maliciously put in bad shutters because they wanted to laugh at their customers...they're a business, they want to create the best products and create loyal users because that is what will make them money...perhaps they pushed the D600 to the customer a little early and should have tested a little longer, but look at the rumor sites clamoring with people wanting the next big thing, its a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation for them...

slow to react may seem accurate on the consumer end of things, but remember that while people immediately complain on the internet about anything and spread mass hysteria almost instantaneously about problems that may or may not be wide spread, the company needs time to research the problem, document the cases involved, investigate both the cause and possible solutions, test a fix for the problem, and examine the proposed solution's feasibility and plan the implementation before they can announce anything...

I can tell you that if my d7000 was faulty I would have been devastated. My first dSLR in 9 years. It would have tormented me on why I thought it was a good option. Then I may have returned or sold it and bought a Canon,or Sony or Fuji or Buzz Light Year.

So I understand when someone's camera just doesn't work as one expects.
I remember when my Ford was in the shop all the time. Then I took the car to the Honda dealership and traded it and never had a problem with the Honda.

Sometimes the inconvenience of something not working properly is beyond the expectations one had for the product. One's time is valuable, and having to figure out "this or that" sometimes is beyond the available time and knowledge of the problem.

 

[Aloicious]

I can tell you that if my d7000 was faulty I would have been devastated. My first dSLR in 9 years. It would have tormented me on why I thought it was a good option. Then I may have returned or sold it and bought a Canon,or Sony or Fuji or Buzz Light Year.

So I understand when someone's camera just doesn't work as one expects.
I remember when my Ford was in the shop all the time. Then I took the car to the Honda dealership and traded it and never had a problem with the Honda.

Sometimes the inconvenience of something not working properly is beyond the expectations one had for the product. One's time is valuable, and having to figure out "this or that" sometimes is beyond the available time and knowledge of the problem.

I agree, people don't need to sit around and wait for the company to fix the problem but they do need to understand why solutions aren't immediate. as you mentioned, you would have jumped ship to another brand...which is completely acceptable, those who didn't mind changing brands could have done that...but you didn't go and sue Ford either. like Runnah mentioned the biggest harm you can do is to move your money elsewhere, starting lawsuits doesn't 'teach the company a lesson' in any way, shape, or form.