How do you deal with the fear of having your gear stolen?

[Flyer]

Oh I wasn't talking legal terms. I just meant, if you're pulling a gun, then make sure the BG is dead. :lmao: Last thing you need is a lawsuit because you let someone live to get a lawyer.

I like the way you think.

I literally LOL'd at that one. That obviously attracted the attention of my wife (thinking I was looking at pics), so I gave her a quick run down, to which she too LOL'd.

 

[480sparky]

From WHO databases in 2003, males only: UK: 0.7 homicide deaths/100000 , Italy 1.7, USA 9.6.
We are indeed different.

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

 

[TheBiles]

I have full insurance on my gear from USAA. I don't go around leaving my bag in my unlocked car or anything, but I wouldn't hesitate to hand it to a mugger in a heartbeat.

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[unpopular]

Gun owners either don't have enough responsibility, or they think they have no responsibility.

If you shoot someone, you better be right about the situation. You better understand the law involved with shooting someone. Because if you're wrong - or even if it overwhelmingly looks wrong - you're going to loose a lot more than your camera. You might be going to jail. You might get sued.

Like I said, the liability in this situation is WAY more costly than any camera and goes beyond that which you can control.

If you're bringing a gun out with you when you're taking pictures in the city, you're looking for trouble.

 

[ConradM]

Oh I wasn't talking legal terms. I just meant, if you're pulling a gun, then make sure the BG is dead. :lmao: Last thing you need is a lawsuit because you let someone live to get a lawyer.

I like the way you think.

I literally LOL'd at that one. That obviously attracted the attention of my wife (thinking I was looking at pics), so I gave her a quick run down, to which she too LOL'd.

:lmao:

 

[thereyougo!]

From WHO databases in 2003, males only: UK: 0.7 homicide deaths/100000 , Italy 1.7, USA 9.6.
We are indeed different.

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

Isn't homicide where someone has been muredered, I.E. killed illegally? If what you say is where people have been killed as a result of the use of deadly force legally, then they won't be included in the figures. I'm still of the view that if wqe arm ourselves, surely the bad guys will just arm themselves more and will usually have the element of surprise on their side.

 

[unpopular]

It doesn't matter. It's a stupid statistic that asserts there is no difference between the EU and US aside from gun laws. If there is a statistic which says that all countries with liberal gun laws have a similar homicide as compared to countries with more conservative gun laws, then that might be something to at least consider.

But simply saying the US has a higher gun ownership rate does not indicate a causal relationship with an increased homicide rates.

 

[ConradM]

From WHO databases in 2003, males only: UK: 0.7 homicide deaths/100000 , Italy 1.7, USA 9.6.
We are indeed different.

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

Isn't homicide where someone has been muredered, I.E. killed illegally? If what you say is where people have been killed as a result of the use of deadly force legally, then they won't be included in the figures. I'm still of the view that if wqe arm ourselves, surely the bad guys will just arm themselves more and will usually have the element of surprise on their side.

Spoken like a true victim.

Newsflash. No matter how many good people arm themselves, bad guys will always be armed. This is why violent crime is higher in states with gun control.

 

[Vtec44]

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

Isn't homicide where someone has been muredered, I.E. killed illegally? If what you say is where people have been killed as a result of the use of deadly force legally, then they won't be included in the figures.[/quote]

You'd think but statistic has been skewed for political agenda many times before.

I'm still of the view that if wqe arm ourselves, surely the bad guys will just arm themselves more and will usually have the element of surprise on their side.

My opinion is that the bad guys ALWAYS have guns, regardless if the good guys have them or not. Washington DC had the strictest gun regulation in the US and it is the murder capital. Arming yourself to defend your life and your family is your choice.

 

[enzodm]

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

I start from the assumption USA is as civil as UK.

 

[IgsEMT]

Hello everybody

I'll try to explain my situation and hopefully some of you may have an advice for me

A couple of months ago I bought my first DSLR... And now, when I should be going outside as much as time permits, sometimes I find myself reluctant to take out my gear depending where I'm going.

The thing is... getting the money to buy it wasn't easy. So, if it gets stolen, it's not like I can replace it anytime soon...

I'd like to be able to take my camera everywhere I go, but when you live in a big city like Buenos Aires, sometimes that can be challenging.
Now, I've been to enough "big cities" in the world to know it's not just about my city. So, I'd like to know how you deal with this situation...

I find some of my friends here going through the same problem... any advice?
It will be much appreciated!

Thank you very much in advance and have a nice day!

Regards,
LizardKing

Insurance, if possible, is one. Second, take only what you need.
My go-to gear when I'm out with my kids or w/e is D90 with either 18-105 or 50 and sb600. For basic stuff around town/park, I don't need more then that. My higher grade gear is nowhere near my kids or situations that you described. Opposite is true when I'm either in the studio or at an event. I might grab the 50 with me and sb600 (and a 3rd backup) but chances are they won't even see outside of camera bag. This is one of those situations where "all in one" lenses are good to have (18-200). It's quality isn't top-notch BUT versatility is very helpful.

 

[unpopular]

What percentage of that 9.6 number is law-abiding citizens forced into a situation where they have no other choice but to kill their assailant in order to survive the incident?

Isn't homicide where someone has been muredered, I.E. killed illegally? If what you say is where people have been killed as a result of the use of deadly force legally, then they won't be included in the figures. I'm still of the view that if wqe arm ourselves, surely the bad guys will just arm themselves more and will usually have the element of surprise on their side.

Spoken like a true victim.

Newsflash. No matter how many good people arm themselves, bad guys will always be armed. This is why violent crime is higher in states with gun control.

Simply because states with higher gun control have higher murder rates does not indicate a causal relationship to homicide rate. Find me the statistic that indicates that gun violence increased after gun laws were enacted. These laws are in response to problems, no matter how misguided a solution.

 

[Vtec44]

I start from the assumption USA is as civil as UK.

Wow.

 

[Vtec44]

Simply because states with higher gun control have higher murder rates does not indicate a causal relationship to homicide rate. Find me the statistic that indicates that gun violence increased after gun laws were enacted. These laws are in response to problems, no matter how misguided a solution?

Same can be said, find me a statistic indicates that crime in general decreases after gun laws were enacted. After all, that's the goal of these gun control regulations right?

 

[Jeremy Z]

Well, I gave some helpful advice a couple pages back that didn't involve hurting anyone, but it is buried in pages of posts about the ethics of shooting poeple. Kind of sad.

Maybe it's time to just lock this thread down, as it has been compromised and is not really related to the OP's question any more.