I just need to VENT!

[gsgary]

Thanks for the responses? I'm not going to sit around all day defending myself to a point that doesn't get past anyone's ears (or eyes rather) so I'll leave on this note..
I needed to vent. Maybe get a few words of encouragement from pros with years of experience who have seen and heard it all, maybe even get a few tips on what I can do to make myself more marketable or improve. I am eager to learn as much as I can about this business. At least I'm not parking my camera in auto all day and crossing my fingers that photoshop will deliver the goods from a crappy photo. I am putting my all in. My situation isn't ideal since I have next to no budget to work with but I am doing what I can. I'm improving as efficiently as I can. It's quite rude and unhelpful that so many of you just want to comment on the status of my skill level. What it boils down to is that I am not pissed about someone new breaking into this industry, I'm pissed because I know these people personally and the only artistic skill these women ever had in highschool was being able to shake their pom-poms to the "GO DEVILS" school cheer at the same time. Thanks again. Over & out.

Removed Admin -- KEEP IT CLEAN!

That was clean

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[manaheim]

Thanks for the responses? I'm not going to sit around all day defending myself to a point that doesn't get past anyone's ears (or eyes rather) so I'll leave on this note..
I needed to vent. Maybe get a few words of encouragement from pros with years of experience who have seen and heard it all, maybe even get a few tips on what I can do to make myself more marketable or improve. I am eager to learn as much as I can about this business. At least I'm not parking my camera in auto all day and crossing my fingers that photoshop will deliver the goods from a crappy photo. I am putting my all in. My situation isn't ideal since I have next to no budget to work with but I am doing what I can. I'm improving as efficiently as I can. It's quite rude and unhelpful that so many of you just want to comment on the status of my skill level. What it boils down to is that I am not pissed about someone new breaking into this industry, I'm pissed because I know these people personally and the only artistic skill these women ever had in highschool was being able to shake their pom-poms to the "GO DEVILS" school cheer at the same time. Thanks again. Over & out.

Here's the advice you're looking for.

1. Spend far less time worrying about, and judging, others.
2. Invest that time in improving your craft and your business.
3. Never vent.

Follow those three rules and you'll be fine.

 

[robbins.photo]

Here's the advice you're looking for.

1. Spend far less time worrying about, and judging, others.

Ok, but that will take most of the fun out of life. And really shouldn't there be an automatic exception for former cheerleaders in there somewhere? I mean if you can't judge them that pretty much scratches everybody off your list.. lol

2. Invest that time in improving your craft and your business.

Do something.. productive? Egads. You know, that's just so crazy it might work!

3. Never vent.

Thank goodness the folks that build water heaters disagree.. lol.

Follow those three rules and you'll be fine.

Well actually there are a few other rules I'd add to the list.

1. Never buy electronics from a guy selling out of the trunk of his car.
2. When your boss says, "We really want to know what you think", don't tell them what you really think
3. Never answer a woman when she asks, "Does this make me look fat?"
4. Never ask who would win in a battle between the Starship Enterprise and a Star Destroyer at a sci-fi convention
5. Never ask a question if you don't really want an honest answer. Life would be so much simpler if everyone just followed this rule

Well, those are my top 5 at any rate.. lol

 

[Steve5D]

Maybe get a few words of encouragement from pros with years of experience who have seen and heard it all, maybe even get a few tips on what I can do to make myself more marketable or improve.

More likely you were hoping to get your ego stroked.

That doesn't happen all too often 'round these parts...

It's quite rude and unhelpful that so many of you just want to comment on the status of my skill level.

Well, see, here's the thing: You're "venting" about others getting into the business when you, yourself, are not ready to be in business. You need to nail it every single time. By your own admission, you don't do that. That's a recipe for professional disaster. Instead of worrying about what some ex-cheerleader is doing, you need to knuckle down and improve. It doesn't take a budget to improve. It takes time and dedication. Now, if you think that's "rude", then so be it; I don't really care. But you say you want a few "tips", so there you go. Stop whining about other people and concentrate on what you're doing...

What it boils down to is that I am not pissed about someone new breaking into this industry, I'm pissed because I know these people personally and the only artistic skill these women ever had in highschool was being able to shake their pom-poms to the "GO DEVILS" school cheer at the same time. Thanks again. Over & out.

Again, your energies are misplaced. Worrying about someone who you think has no talent will get you nowhere. It's not productive, and it will rob you of time you could be spending improving yourself.

Now, if you still feel the need to runaway because we've pissed in your Wheaties, go ahead. But I'm having a difficult time trying to understand why you would do that. You've gotten sound advice here. It just happens to be advice that you didn't expect. Instead of tucking your tail between your legs and running away, maybe you should try to follow some of the advice you've gotten here and see what happens...

 

[Steve5D]

3. Never answer a woman when she asks, "Does this make me look fat?"

My ex-wife once asked me "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"

I answered "No, your ass makes your ass look fat".

Like I said, that'd be my ex-wife...

 

[astroNikon]

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hmmmm ...

 

[robbins.photo]

3. Never answer a woman when she asks, "Does this make me look fat?"

My ex-wife once asked me "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"

I answered "No, your ass makes your ass look fat".

Like I said, that'd be my ex-wife...

See now I might be forced to recant my previous statement where I described us as not being a huggy bunch- rotfl

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[astroNikon]

here's a recommendation.

Contact one of the Mentors here .. and use them to help you improve your studio photography.

I'm doing that ... though I stink right now as I keep forgetting things while taking shots. Now I have a checklist which will help me remember the simple steps for portraiture and OCF so hopefully I'll be able to send him something to review LOL

 

[imagemaker46]

Photography has become like watching Jackass, the disclaimer saying "these are professionals, don't attempt this at home" So what do people do? they ignore the disclaimer and attempt some stunt and end up breaking their necks, only to find it posted on YouTube. Everyone with a camera wants to be one of these professionals and try it, but most simply fail. Regardless of what they think it still takes skill and experience to attempt a stunt and not break your neck trying.

So to all the camera owners out there that want to play professional, try a couple of tough stunts and after you get kicked in the groin enough times you'll realize that there is more to it than just owning a camera and a business card.

 

[kathyt]

3. Never answer a woman when she asks, "Does this make me look fat?"

My ex-wife once asked me "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"

I answered "No, your ass makes your ass look fat".

Like I said, that'd be my ex-wife...

Oh Steve! You are one of those people we love to hate, but hate to love!

 

[DiskoJoe]

Wait, I think I found a niche-DIVORCE PHOTOS! Divorces are horrible, so taking horrible photos would fit! YES!

I have already tapped this market!

What did you TAP?

 

[kathyt]

Wait, I think I found a niche-DIVORCE PHOTOS! Divorces are horrible, so taking horrible photos would fit! YES!

I have already tapped this market!

What did you TAP?

I am trying to keep this forum clean diskoJoe. I cannot disclose this top secret information.

 

[DiskoJoe]

I have already tapped this market!

What did you TAP?

I am trying to keep this forum clean diskoJoe. I cannot disclose this top secret information.

Thats not what they were referring to. This type of dirty is acceptable as long as accompanied by pics.

 

[kathyt]

What did you TAP?

I am trying to keep this forum clean diskoJoe. I cannot disclose this top secret information.

Thats not what they were referring to. This type of dirty is acceptable as long as accompanied by pics.

I can't accommodate this time. Sorry. I have scored the greatest guy in the world, and I would like to keep him. I have to clean up my talk around this joint!

 

[robbins.photo]

3. Never answer a woman when she asks, "Does this make me look fat?"

My ex-wife once asked me "Do these jeans make my ass look fat?"

I answered "No, your ass makes your ass look fat".

Like I said, that'd be my ex-wife...

Oh Steve! You are one of those people we love to hate, but hate to love!

Confessions of a former cheerleader, next on Fox.. lol