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That I need to get some filters....specifically ND filters. I was out hiking around and wanted to take some creek/water shots with the snow...impossible. Best I could get was 1/13 @ f/22 & ISO 50 and this didn't give me what I was looking for. So I don't know a whole lot about ND filters and was looking for some input. Does anyone have some good articles/links on ND filters? Also, what are the advantages to a screw on type vs the square/rectangular type (not entirely sure of the name)? Where should I start?
 
The square filters slide into a holder. The "Cokin" holder system is probably the most popular "holder" (and these come in sizes). While Cokin also makes filters, the high-end filters are made by Lee or Singh-Ray. The point of the slide in is that you can control how far in you slide the filter. This is for gradient ND filters which are clear on half the filter and tinted on the other half. If you're shooting a landscape and you've got 2/3rds of the frame with foreground and only 1/3rd sky then you want to slide in the filter so that it's just darkening the exposure on the sky (just one example.)

Most people use the round thread-on filters because the whole filter is the same tint (there's no clear half). If you only own 1 ND filter then a 3-stop filter is the most common. Filters might be described based on the number of stops OR they might be described based on their "density" value. If it's described in density then what you need to know is that each "0.1" density is equal to 1/3rd of a stop on the camera. So a 3 stop filter would be listed as an ND 0.9.

A circular polarizer will cut some light but the amount of light it cuts depends on where the light source originated. You twist the filter to tune it. It typically blocks about 2 stops max. That's often not enough to make a stream or waterfall appear smooth. You can stack filters ... you could stack both an ND 0.9 with a Circular Polarizer (CPL) and that would give you up to 5 stops. Don't go crazy with stacking or you'll see vignetting in the corners and it'll degrade the optical quality. It's also possible for stacked filters to cause ghosting and odd reflections.

Circular polarizers dont' work as well in wide-angle lenses. The polarization really depends on the angle of the light source. In a wide lens the light can come from such a wide range of source angles that it'll block some angles more than others and you'll get an add shadowy striped region where blocking was heavy, surrounded by pale regions where it didn't block much at all.

B+W brand is the gold standard. Hoya Pro1 filters are also extremely good. The main thing about a good ND filter is that it should actually be color "neutral". Some budget filters block some wavelengths more than others and can alter the color in the image.
 
Just a point but with the square filters you can also slide the single value filters (ie the regular type as opposed to the variable gradient ones) so that they only cover part of the scene to give a variable exposure effect. So there is some use for having the square filters in the neutral density format as well as the graduated format
 
Thank you both for your input. It sounds like square filters are where I want to go. So what would be a good start as for stops? Like Tim said 3 stops is the standard, but should I look at several? I haven't looked at prices of this stuff yet....

I like with the square I would be able to customize the filter to each scene by sliding them. Any disadvantages to the square filters?
 
What filter sizes are you looking for?
 
What filter sizes are you looking for?

I was actually just about to try and figure out what size square filters I would need. My 17-40mm is 77mm and the 70-200mm is 67mm. I am guessing 3x4 or 4x4? 77mm=3.03 inches but will 3" cause vignetting?
 
I've got the Conkin system, and a set of adaptor rings so that the same setup can be used with any of my lenses which have filter sizes ranging from 77mm to 55mm. I've also got circular polarizing filters, and one 10-stop ND filter with a step-down ring to allow me to use it on several lenses. Get the largest size you need and use the step-down rings to adapt to smaller filter diameters.
 
Are resin filters as good as glass? Pros and cons?
 
I'd think glass is better, but the square ones (Conkin) are plastic, and if you want the flexibility of moving your grad dividing line, I don't think you have much choice.
 

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