I lost my manual and I can't get it on my phone.

[subscuck]

or you were just too scared to stand up for yourself.

Not likely. From the pics I've seen of him, he looks fully capable of "taking care of business". Most likely, he's a mature, reasonable, responsible adult who realizes wrong actions bring consequences and regrets. As a reasonable and mature adult, I'm sure he also realizes not taking the bait accomplishes far more.

So here's some more wisdom for you to ignore:

People who regularly get their buttons pushed, get them pushed because:
1) They leave their buttons out in the open to be pushed at will by any who choose to do so.
2) They always, unfailingly, with 100% predictability, give the exact reaction the button pusher is looking for.

Good God, man, you're 21. In the US that makes you 100% adult. Canada, I assume, is the same. You say at 21 you're expected to be young and foolish. I call BS. At 16, yes. At 18, to some extent. At 21? Not so much. Be an adult and use the ignore function. If you choose not to use it, you'll accomplish nothing more than proving right everyone here who believes you love the conflict. You love feeling the rage. You love negative attention. And don't spout nonsense about how they shouldn't post in your threads. This is a free and open public forum. Everyone has the same privilege of posting wherever and whenever they choose. That's how fora work, and that's what the ignore function is for. You, however, don't want to look away from the train wreck, and do your best to cause more damage.

 

[Kbarredo]

or you were just too scared to stand up for yourself.

Not likely. From the pics I've seen of him, he looks fully capable of "taking care of business". Most likely, he's a mature, reasonable, responsible adult who realizes wrong actions bring consequences and regrets. As a reasonable and mature adult, I'm sure he also realizes not taking the bait accomplishes far more.So here's some more wisdom for you to ignoreeople who regularly get their buttons pushed, get them pushed because: 1) They leave their buttons out in the open to be pushed at will by any who choose to do so. 2) They always, unfailingly, with 100% predictability, give the exact reaction the button pusher is looking for.Good God, man, you're 21. In the US that makes you 100% adult. Canada, I assume, is the same. You say at 21 you're expected to be young and foolish. I call BS. At 16, yes. At 18, to some extent. At 21? Not so much. Be an adult and use the ignore function. If you choose not to use it, you'll accomplish nothing more than proving right everyone here who believes you love the conflict. You love feeling the rage. You love negative attention. And don't spout nonsense about how they shouldn't post in your threads. This is a free and open public forum. Everyone has the same privilege of posting wherever and whenever they choose. That's how fora work, and that's what the ignore function is for. You, however, don't want to look away from the train wreck, and do your best to cause more damage.

yes that's true I leave my buttons out and I'm a very emotional person. but are you seriously justifying the button pusher that cause the problem. Why do you choose to lecture the person defending themselves and not the ones that bully others. Like you said I can say what I want. I just find it funny that defend myself and I get crapped on. Derrel makes homosexual jokes about french canadians and people laugh. So what this shows is that as long as I help around I can be a homophobic douche all I want.
Every negative comment I post is always a response to someone else attacking me. You can't say the same thing for derrel, kmh and bitter. I have never gone to someones thread and questioned their integrity and character for asking a simple question. I have always given straight answers. If I don't have the answer I say "google is your friend". Not "google it you lazy bum".

 

[kundalini]

or you were just too scared to stand up for yourself.

 

[mc1979]

Do you mind me asking... how old are you?Easy to anger, thinks violence is the answer, jump down everyone's throats that are trying to help you, never wrong, never to blame, thinks fighting and name calling shows how much of a man you are. I'm going with early 20's.

you never read the whole thread did you. If you did you would know my age and who jumped down who's throat first. I bet like the rest of the people here you just assumed I started this fight. To be fair I have never fought outside the ring. Im just telling kmh what I would like to do but I have more self control than that. Like I said I have a reason to be the way I am, I'm young. What's kmh, bitter and derrels reasons to be so grumpy all the time. They attack anyone asking simple questions. Kmh was trying to help me but he also tried to lecture me. Would you like a lecture about your character everytime you ask a simple question.

Ok here is the thing. You are okaying your behavior by putting your age out there, which shows you know you are acting immature, and now are using age to excuse it.

I don't know you or anyone on here personally, so don't take offense to what I am going to say ( this is the internet for God sakes). But what I said earlier, I was joking but halfway feel that way.
What frustrates me is that your original post was asking for help on something because you had lost your user's manual and instead of your first thought being "Hey, let me google that and see if the company has a manual I can download", you choose to ask it here first, and I have to feel that you knew what kind of responses you would get.

Am I guilty of asking something that could have been found on Google? YES. But the difference in my posting history, and your posting history, is that it only took me one time to get hinted to that I should have looked on Google rather than wasting everyone's time. And you seem to come back alot asking those kind of questions.

I don't put alot of pics up for critique, but when I do, I wish to get feedback from people especially the members here with more experience. So it's frustrating to me to see those very members who I respect and value their opinion, skip over my post and come here to argue with you. But that's just me whining! LOL

Honestly, it just seems that you invite this upon yourself alot of the times...I'm not saying all the time so don't rage out on me too! But have some respect for other posters here as well. Don't keep threads like this going(which is now what I have done LOL) but ignore what you don't like and move on.

 

[Kbarredo]

I can't download it all I have is my phone and it doesn't have enough memory to download the pdf. My comp is gonzo for repairs. I was looking for an online version that I don't have to download. This is what I mean people jUst assume I'm being lazy. Every question other than cc can be googled. If some people had it their way it would all be cc. But we are supposed to ask questions here no matter how simple. I would understand if I ask the same questions in the advance forum but this is beginner. I would never jump down someones throat for asking what a viewfinder is.

 

[subscuck]

yes that's true I leave my buttons out and I'm a very emotional person. but are you seriously justifying the button pusher that cause the problem.

Where in my post did I justify anything? I pointed out human nature. Nothing more, nothing less. If you allow yourself to react to your buttons being pushed, that makes you as much a part of the problem.

Derrel makes homosexual jokes about french canadians and people laugh. So what this shows is that as long as I help around I can be a homophobic douche all I want.

Hmmm, that's a strange connecting of the dots. Derrels attitude has been much changed since yesterday. But that's between him and the forum moderators. It's none of our business, and has zero to do with you and your behavior.

 

[Gaerek]

or you were just too scared to stand up for yourself.

Well that explains a lot about you. Enjoy life thinking that violence actually solves your problems. I don't need to kick someone's ass to stand up for myself. You see, I use something called a brain. The weak-minded resort to violence. Now go along child, back to the schoolyard. Next time someone threatens you, just tell them to meet you in the parking lot after school so you can show everyone what a dumbass you really are.

 

[Derrel]

yes that's true I leave my buttons out and I'm a very emotional person. but are you seriously justifying the button pusher that cause the problem.

Where in my post did I justify anything? I pointed out human nature. Nothing more, nothing less. If you allow yourself to react to your buttons being pushed, that makes you as much a part of the problem.

Derrel makes homosexual jokes about french canadians and people laugh. So what this shows is that as long as I help around I can be a homophobic douche all I want.

Hmmm, that's a strange connecting of the dots. Derrels attitude has been much changed since yesterday. But that's between him and the forum moderators. It's none of our business, and has zero to do with you and your behavior.

I have not received any warnings or notifications from the forum moderators. None. Not a peep. Interestingly, my comments in that not every portrait has to be a vertical thread received THE MOST "Likes" of any thread I have done in the past month...and it is obvious that quite a few people agreed with me and my statements in that thread. As far as my attitude "changing" since yesterday, hey, I'm here to try and help people with their questions and their photography. EACH day is a new day. I try to plow ahead each day, answering questions, giving advice, and making comments; I try not to hold grudges. You'll note that even if I get into a disagreement with somebody on this board, it's not too long before all is forgotten. I have rhino skin. I am a GROWN-UP. I don't let petty disagreements on a web board bother ME, personally.

My attitude is that each day is a new one, and we might just as well forge ahead. Answer questions, provide URL's, give insights, and share techniques....THAT is what I am here to do. I notice that one fellow who attacked me ad hominem in that thread is not here on TPF...I think HE might have been temporarily banned, OR he slunk away with his tail between his legs and is pouting someplace.

 

[fokker]

Put it this way if someone in real life kept insulting and putting you down what do you do? You ignore them right? Now what if they followed you everywhere you go and kept doing the same thing. You eventually snap and yell.at the guy or worse. They use the same tactics as neo nazis do today. They march in a parade provoking people. The people get mad and attack them. then the nazis play the victim. In the end the ethnic people end up looking bad.

Okay... put down the dumbells for a second and listen up: People don't 'follow you around' on here looking to cause trouble in your threads. You are posting threads in a public forum that is clearly frequented by these people, and you expect them to not to stop by for a look? This is like hanging out in little chinatown and then wondering why Chinese people seem to be following you. Sure, you might say, but why do they have to post inflammatory remarks in my threads? The reason is because your threads are, almost without exception, either controversial in nature (my wife thinks I stole her passion, my co-worker is more succesful than me, etc etc) or you asking a dumb question that could easily be googled (how can I find an owner's manual for my camera, what does mm on a lens mean, etc etc).
By this point in time it has gone way past ridiculous how many of your threads end up as 5 or 10 page **** fights with people repeating the same statements to you (like 'google it' or 'RTFM') and you ignoring them. It is obvious that you like conflict or else you wouldn't keep coming back here. People are getting pretty sick of your monster threads while true beginners (not idiots who have been here 5 or 6 months and learned nothing) are getting ignored on C&C requests. Can you please just give it a rest?

 

[fokker]

I do thank those that contribute without snide remarks. Doa, ron and a lot more people are awesome and even when I don't agree I look up to those guys for their patience towards beginners. These few individuals act like we would sacrifice a goat before we ask anything. We have to watch the difficulty of our questions and our grammar or else they jump down our throats. They hang out at beginner forums getting mad at people asking beginner and easily answered questions. So what if we want things spoon fed to us. You go into any class and the teacher spoon feeds you everything. All you have to do is listen take notes and answer questions. they would rather write a wall scolding you than right 2 lines answering your question.

FYI - these 'few individuals' you speak of are some of the most consistently helpful people on here, and if you look right back you'd see they tried to help you as well, several times, but clearly got fed up with you because you don't listen or take any advice on board. So no, they are not hanging out on the beginner board getting mad at beginners - just idiots who should be way past the beginner stage by now but are too stubborn/stupid to actually learn anything.

Also FYI - this is not your personal photography class. We aren't here to spoon feed you, so don't get snippy if someone tells you to do your own research.

 

[Kbarredo]

Annnd I don't care

 

[kundalini]

Annnd I don't care

Then this is right up your alley.........

 

[Kbarredo]

FYI fokker the moment you insult someone they stop caring about what your saying

 

[fokker]

Annnd I don't care

Basically my point, you seem to ignore all advice pointed in your direction and focus only on the negatives and then get defensive over them, rather than listening to constructive feedback which would lead to you altering certain behaviors and avoiding these threads in future.

FYI fokker the moment you insult someone they stop caring about what your saying

Yeah, if they are immature and pig-headed.

I've helped you out in the past before I realised what a troll you were, and you didn't even acknowledge any of my helpful replies, rather you would go off on a tangent about something slightly negative someone else said and turn the thread into a clusterf*ck. So no, I'm not going to be helpful to you any more.

 

[Raian-san]

I just seriously think you're just miserable with your life that you come up here asking the stupidest and most random questions to get attention. You're like a little baby. "Oh I lost my milk sipping bottle, what do I do...cry cry..."

You ask about lighting questions and yet you don't have any lighting equipment. You been saying you have a flash but you never took a picture with a flash. If I got a brand new flash that I spent my hard earn money, hell yeah I'm going out to test it and post it on here even if the picture is not even good. I'm not hating but just calling it how it is. Seriously, that's why I never even want to waste my time to answer to your thread about your original question because I would be wasting time knowing that you don't even think about using any advice given to you. I'm surprised people still answer your questions thinking you actually want to seek advice.

I always try to do as much research as I can before posting a question. Even when I posted the question, I still search for more info. When someone respond about a particular item or product, I research it and reply with my research knowledge and ask about things I'm not sure of. You ask a question and never, I mean never even check the products suggested. You don't even research it and reply with at least what you learned about the advice, or product suggested. You just ask more stupid question that if you had even google the product suggested, you would had known the answer is. And worst of all, you get defensive and try to call people out over the web? Wow...either you're doing it on purpose, or just not very bright.