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I think the phrase low-end schlock is a bit harsh for her work, and I do not approve of that baldly dismissive attitude

It's exploitative and predatory for playing on insecurity and encouraging narcissism as "empowerment." That it's being done by a woman somehow legitimates and excuses it. I know several photographers who ply the same trade in what they call "strip mall" erotica to describe the aesthetic. It satisfies a demand.
 
Come on guys....I'm supposed to be enjoying my 20 year class reunion right now, NOT moderating inappropriate comments.

Can you guys please play nice for a bit so I can enjoy the party? Pretty please?

Are you seriously moderating TPF from a 20 year reunion?!? Dude, power done the mobile and go talk to people. Life is short. The person you talk to tonight may not be at the next reunion. Priorities, man. Priorities. Get them aligned.

Back on topic: It irritates me like a paper cut when people don't know the difference between depth of field and bokeh, especially when they are someone giving workshops on high profile advertising websites.
 
Come on guys....I'm supposed to be enjoying my 20 year class reunion right now, NOT moderating inappropriate comments.

Can you guys please play nice for a bit so I can enjoy the party? Pretty please?

Are you seriously moderating TPF from a 20 year reunion?!? Dude, power done the mobile and go talk to people. Life is short. The person you talk to tonight may not be at the next reunion. Priorities, man. Priorities. Get them aligned.

well, no...im not now....
im back home now. :mrgreen:
 
When any book that is supposed to help me learn more instead makes my Spidey senses start sounding alarms screaming, "this isn't right! this isn't right!", I put the book down and move on.
The problem is, ANYone can be a "pro" photographer these days, AND anyone can be a "published" author. It used to be, that for a book to be published, it had to at least be deemed worthy by *someone* other than the author--an agent, a publisher, somebody who knew SOMEthing about books. These days, literally ANYbody can "publish" a book.


To get off topic here.
I've been considering this.
Does one download book or access them on the cloud?
If DLing, is there a limit to how many one can be reading simultaneously?

I just started my trial today, but I downloaded about 6 books off the bat and all showed up on my kindle immediately!
Do these expire after a certain time?
What happens when your subscription ends ?

The way I understand the new Kindle unlimited program is that your monthly subscription allows you to download as many eligible books as you want, as often as you want. They don't "expire" in one sense--if I download a book today, and don't read it until next year, it'll still be there. UNLESS I cancel my subscription. Once I cancel my subscription, ALL the books I downloaded through the Kindle Unlimited program are no longer accessible to me.

Just like a movie rental site, say Netflix. You pay the monthly fee and watch all the movies you want online, whenever you want. But cancel the subscription, and POOF! no more movies.

So, if you are certain you'll read more than $10 worth of eligible books in a month, it's worth the cost, but otherwise, it's not, because I can't just use it to download 200 books in one month, and then cancel the service and have 200 books to read.

I've started my trial as well; I've downloaded three books, almost finished with the first. I love the IDEA of this program, but will probably give it my free month plus one paid month before I decide whether there are enough eligible books that I'm likely to read to make it worthwhile.
I already read a LOT of free or really, really cheap books on Kindle, so I'm not convinced I'll stick with Unlimited. Time will tell.
 
I think the phrase low-end schlock is a bit harsh for her work, and I do not approve of that baldly dismissive attitude

It's exploitative and predatory for playing on insecurity and encouraging narcissism as "empowerment." That it's being done by a woman somehow legitimates and excuses it. I know several photographers who ply the same trade in what they call "strip mall" erotica to describe the aesthetic. It satisfies a demand.

Yeah...making overweight people feel bad about themselves is exploiting them. Wow...you're amazingly sexist. I mean, Good Lord, imagine the nerve of those women, wanting to feel beautiful! You call that "narcissism". OMFG, you're a charmer.

With comments like the ones you made above, it's pretty clear to us all that you're an expert on human psychology and a real modern-age man. Wow. Are you done burning all the 50 Shades of Grey books you can find?
 
When any book that is supposed to help me learn more instead makes my Spidey senses start sounding alarms screaming, "this isn't right! this isn't right!", I put the book down and move on. The problem is, ANYone can be a "pro" photographer these days, AND anyone can be a "published" author. It used to be, that for a book to be published, it had to at least be deemed worthy by *someone* other than the author--an agent, a publisher, somebody who knew SOMEthing about books. These days, literally ANYbody can "publish" a book. The way I understand the new Kindle unlimited program is that your monthly subscription allows you to download as many eligible books as you want, as often as you want. They don't "expire" in one sense--if I download a book today, and don't read it until next year, it'll still be there. UNLESS I cancel my subscription. Once I cancel my subscription, ALL the books I downloaded through the Kindle Unlimited program are no longer accessible to me. Just like a movie rental site, say Netflix. You pay the monthly fee and watch all the movies you want online, whenever you want. But cancel the subscription, and POOF! no more movies. So, if you are certain you'll read more than $10 worth of eligible books in a month, it's worth the cost, but otherwise, it's not, because I can't just use it to download 200 books in one month, and then cancel the service and have 200 books to read. I've started my trial as well; I've downloaded three books, almost finished with the first. I love the IDEA of this program, but will probably give it my free month plus one paid month before I decide whether there are enough eligible books that I'm likely to read to make it worthwhile. I already read a LOT of free or really, really cheap books on Kindle, so I'm not convinced I'll stick with Unlimited. Time will tell.


Yes, I'm starting to get very frustrated with the internet in general. In another group, there are such terrible photos getting insane amounts of praise from people who have no idea what they are doing. Idiots taking advice from other idiots. "Professionals" writing how too books. It sure makes it difficult to know who to trust!
As for the kindle unlimited:
I found out today that the limit is 10 books out at a time. I started another kids chapter book with my son today and quickly deleted it. What absolute JUNK it was. However, we may go ahead and keep it for a while because it does have some books worth merit, and many easy readers to choose from while my son is learning to read. Our local library is worthless, so I'm hoping this is a consolation.
 
I think the phrase low-end schlock is a bit harsh for her work, and I do not approve of that baldly dismissive attitude

It's exploitative and predatory for playing on insecurity and encouraging narcissism as "empowerment." That it's being done by a woman somehow legitimates and excuses it. I know several photographers who ply the same trade in what they call "strip mall" erotica to describe the aesthetic. It satisfies a demand.

Yeah...making overweight people feel bad about themselves is exploiting them. Wow...you're amazingly sexist. I mean, Good Lord, imagine the nerve of those women, wanting to feel beautiful! You call that "narcissism". OMFG, you're a charmer.

With comments like the ones you made above, it's pretty clear to us all that you're an expert on human psychology and a real modern-age man. Wow. Are you done burning all the 50 Shades of Grey books you can find?

Wait, somebody else already played the overbearing sexist pig card?

Ahh crap. Ok, well not much point in me being in this thread then I guess.. rotfl
 
Just like a movie rental site, say Netflix. You pay the monthly fee and watch all the movies you want online, whenever you want. But cancel the subscription, and POOF! no more movies.
Well oddly enough Netflix does remove and cycle movies too. I think their contract(s) with the movie places only lets them have so many plays of them, then they have to remove them. So movies come and go ... whether you want to see it again or not. You could always order the DVD though.

If I like a book .. I generally like to keep it.

The books for my kids through the ipad store .. now those books some are good for reading and other just go from "good" to .. oh, they're just totally out of ideas now but are pushing junk for content.
 
As for the kindle unlimited:
I found out today that the limit is 10 books out at a time. I started another kids chapter book with my son today and quickly deleted it. What absolute JUNK it was. However, we may go ahead and keep it for a while because it does have some books worth merit, and many easy readers to choose from while my son is learning to read. Our local library is worthless, so I'm hoping this is a consolation.

I will almost certainly not keep it, if that's the case. I sometimes download a book, knowing I want to read it "sometime," but having no intention of reading it anytime soon. I wouldn't want to be bothered with the hassle of keeping track of which ten books I've got "out" and which ones I've read and returned.
 
I think the phrase low-end schlock is a bit harsh for her work, and I do not approve of that baldly dismissive attitude

It's exploitative and predatory for playing on insecurity and encouraging narcissism as "empowerment." That it's being done by a woman somehow legitimates and excuses it. I know several photographers who ply the same trade in what they call "strip mall" erotica to describe the aesthetic. It satisfies a demand.

Yeah...making overweight people feel bad about themselves is exploiting them. Wow...you're amazingly sexist. I mean, Good Lord, imagine the nerve of those women, wanting to feel beautiful! You call that "narcissism". OMFG, you're a charmer.

With comments like the ones you made above, it's pretty clear to us all that you're an expert on human psychology and a real modern-age man. Wow. Are you done burning all the 50 Shades of Grey books you can find?

Pull the other one...

Jeff Bezos will soon own everything:

https://kdp.amazon.com/signin?language=en_US

Even vanity press crap.
 
Her way may work for her. But It doesn't mean that you or anyone else has to do things her way.

If every photographer used the same methods to create photos.... I think we'd have far fewer "artists" and far too many "casual photo takers".

We all shoot differently and have our own styles... Thankfully... Otherwise the love of photography would be pretty boring.

PS - This is personal opinion... I am not preaching or critisising anyone...
 
I will almost certainly not keep it, if that's the case. I sometimes download a book, knowing I want to read it "sometime," but having no intention of reading it anytime soon. I wouldn't want to be bothered with the hassle of keeping track of which ten books I've got "out" and which ones I've read and returned.

It might not work for you, but I just started a wish-list for books. To keep what I want to read handy, but not have more than 10out at a time.
 
When any book that is supposed to help me learn more instead makes my Spidey senses start sounding alarms screaming, "this isn't right! this isn't right!", I put the book down and move on. The problem is, ANYone can be a "pro" photographer these days, AND anyone can be a "published" author. It used to be, that for a book to be published, it had to at least be deemed worthy by *someone* other than the author--an agent, a publisher, somebody who knew SOMEthing about books. These days, literally ANYbody can "publish" a book. The way I understand the new Kindle unlimited program is that your monthly subscription allows you to download as many eligible books as you want, as often as you want. They don't "expire" in one sense--if I download a book today, and don't read it until next year, it'll still be there. UNLESS I cancel my subscription. Once I cancel my subscription, ALL the books I downloaded through the Kindle Unlimited program are no longer accessible to me. Just like a movie rental site, say Netflix. You pay the monthly fee and watch all the movies you want online, whenever you want. But cancel the subscription, and POOF! no more movies. So, if you are certain you'll read more than $10 worth of eligible books in a month, it's worth the cost, but otherwise, it's not, because I can't just use it to download 200 books in one month, and then cancel the service and have 200 books to read. I've started my trial as well; I've downloaded three books, almost finished with the first. I love the IDEA of this program, but will probably give it my free month plus one paid month before I decide whether there are enough eligible books that I'm likely to read to make it worthwhile. I already read a LOT of free or really, really cheap books on Kindle, so I'm not convinced I'll stick with Unlimited. Time will tell.


Yes, I'm starting to get very frustrated with the internet in general. In another group, there are such terrible photos getting insane amounts of praise from people who have no idea what they are doing. Idiots taking advice from other idiots. "Professionals" writing how too books. It sure makes it difficult to know who to trust!
As for the kindle unlimited:
I found out today that the limit is 10 books out at a time. I started another kids chapter book with my son today and quickly deleted it. What absolute JUNK it was. However, we may go ahead and keep it for a while because it does have some books worth merit, and many easy readers to choose from while my son is learning to read. Our local library is worthless, so I'm hoping this is a consolation.

Don't keep it too long you won't be able to send it back, have you still got the Nikon DF :wink:
 
Yeah, I didn't read all the other posts. She has a shooting style. Her writing style probably sucks. Either way she made money on the deal. Workshops and books are the new "in" thing to do when you are a photographer.
 

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