I really like...

gjtoth · Oct 11, 2009

... the way this one came out. From the SP590.

I haven't posted in a while but have been lurking.

Canosonic · Oct 12, 2009

Makes me smile. The bird.
Not the NOISE.

gjtoth · Oct 12, 2009

Canosonic said:
Makes me smile. The bird.
Not the NOISE.

Noise? The noise the bird makes?

Canosonic · Oct 12, 2009

No.

I suspect high sensitivity noise. Picture quality.

gjtoth · Oct 12, 2009

Canosonic said:
No. I suspect high sensitivity noise. Picture quality.

Oh, I seeeeeeee. You suspect? Are you aware this what this is shot with? Or, do you just suspect? Or, to confirm your suspicions, did you zoom in to say... 500x? Do you know what pixel-peeping is?

I'm a hobbyist. I do this for fun and MY enjoyment. If I have, perhaps, spoiled your fun by such a terrible photo loaded with such TERRIBLE suspected high sensitivty, my apologies. But, feel free to ignore my horribly noisy posts in the future.

There, don't you feel better?

Nihilation · Oct 12, 2009

The texture of the photo is grainy in appearance. Try a lower ISO.

gjtoth · Oct 12, 2009

Nihilation said:
The texture of the photo is grainy in appearance. Try a lower ISO.

Looks fine on my monitor.

Overread · Oct 12, 2009

Gary - I don't think anyone is trying to attack you or your photography, they are simply giving their opinions on the image you have presented (something that by posting it in this section is what you have requested - if you don't want any crits at all simply use the "just for fun" section - its what its there for

))

That out of the way the image is noisy - and no that is not with any pixel peeping at all (impossible since we don't have a fullsized version of the image to peep on

) but simply looking at the shot you have presented here. That you say you can't see the noise on your computer says one of two possible things to me;
1) you might have a very dark moniter and the noise is just not showing up on your screen. If your on a CRT (big) screen then this could be a factor - though if your using an LCD (flatscreen) I would be very surprised since they tend to run overbright most times

2) Your not quite sure what noise they are refering to.

As for my own views I first thought this show was from a film camera since the noise (little dots in the background areas) has that more grainy look to it. You could try countering the noise if you desire by using some editing software - nothing fancy even photoshop elements or GIMP with some noise removal and layermask effect (so as not to soften the sharp main subject). If you want more info on this then ask.
Also the noise is not all we see of course - there is also the subject itself - well presented and sharp - also dominating a large portion of the shot which is not an easy thing when dealing with such a small bird (which are often very flighty).

gjtoth · Oct 12, 2009

Overread said:
Gary - I don't think anyone is trying to attack you or your photography, they are simply giving their opinions on the image you have presented (something that by posting it in this section is what you have requested - if you don't want any crits at all simply use the "just for fun" section - its what its there for ))

That out of the way the image is noisy - and no that is not with any pixel peeping at all (impossible since we don't have a fullsized version of the image to peep on ) but simply looking at the shot you have presented here. That you say you can't see the noise on your computer says one of two possible things to me;
1) you might have a very dark moniter and the noise is just not showing up on your screen. If your on a CRT (big) screen then this could be a factor - though if your using an LCD (flatscreen) I would be very surprised since they tend to run overbright most times

2) Your not quite sure what noise they are refering to.

As for my own views I first thought this show was from a film camera since the noise (little dots in the background areas) has that more grainy look to it. You could try countering the noise if you desire by using some editing software - nothing fancy even photoshop elements or GIMP with some noise removal and layermask effect (so as not to soften the sharp main subject). If you want more info on this then ask.
Also the noise is not all we see of course - there is also the subject itself - well presented and sharp - also dominating a large portion of the shot which is not an easy thing when dealing with such a small bird (which are often very flighty).

Well, I'll tell ya what. I disagree with you. I think the photo presented may not have been "attacked", it was most CERTAINLY misjudged and from the initial "critique" was done with a certain smugness and arrogance that I *HIGHLY* resent. I have shown this on two other forums and several "real" professional photographers and without reservation they thought it was excellent. One going so far as to say he could not distinguish it from one shot with a DSLR. So, I think you guys are soooo puffed up with yourselves your eyesight has been affected! Noise, indeed. I especially love the Nihilation. The guy makes eight posts. NONE showing his own masterpieces, yet he can see graininess?! Spare me.

Don't bother responding. You folks can pick yourselves to pieces with your pixel-peeping snobbery. As for me, there are other games in town with REAL professionals that encourage for the sake of HONEST help. NOT nitpick just to see their masterly words in print. I know, I run one of 'em.