I want to be a photographer – or maybe an artist. - small rant

[The_Traveler]

I was under the impression most highly recognized, famous photos were not shot with the intention of hitting any imaginary bar or appeasing. I don't think most painters, sculptors or any other artists or even beetoven on the piano for all the reason had any goal of having others invent a bar for their work and then further following through on appeasing the others imaginary standards.

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You're wrong.

 

[AlanO]

So often I go to shows where photography is displayed and I see images that are out of focus or poorly processed or mis-framed - and these are not creative decisions but unrecognized or ignored defects - and the photographer waves off these issues as being unimportant. It is as if everything that any artist does in preparation for being able to create and sustain that window into another reality just doesn't count. That, because they don't know or care, they believe they have invented a new way to create by skipping over all of this knowledge, craft, experience stuff that all the rest of us struggle with. It's a great time saver not to actually have to 'know' anything or be able to 'do' anything with any degree of skill. (While it may seem like I am placing undue emphasis on technical 'correctness' as opposed to the art of any image, my attitude is that technical issues are totally irrelevant until they detract from the image - and then technical faults become enormously important.)

My favorite paragraph and sentence from the rewrite... Points are reasonable and valid, IMHO.

 

[timor]

I was under the impression most highly recognized, famous photos were not shot with the intention of hitting any imaginary bar or appeasing. I don't think most painters, sculptors or any other artists or even beetoven on the piano for all the reason had any goal of having others invent a bar for their work and then further following through on appeasing the others imaginary standards.

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You're wrong.

I second Lew here. Artists, often, love to show off. They love the fame and admiration of the public.

 

[bribrius]

I was under the impression most highly recognized, famous photos were not shot with the intention of hitting any imaginary bar or appeasing. I don't think most painters, sculptors or any other artists or even beetoven on the piano for all the reason had any goal of having others invent a bar for their work and then further following through on appeasing the others imaginary standards.

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You're wrong.

If you believe so. Please show me im wrong.

Lew, I think you are suffering from generation gap. To be honest. my old man give mes **** for not doing things "the right way" (the old way). I surely cant perceive why my younger adolescent does or thinks like she does. The world changes, art changes. No one wants to look at younger generations and changes because we automatically think its going down hill. And if we really like something, we don't want to see it change.
No one likes change.

 

[timor]

I don't think it has much to do with changing times. Basic mans psyche is the same and that is competitiveness. A desire to be the best.

 

[bribrius]

I don't think it has much to do with changing times. Basic mans psyche is the same and that is competitiveness. A desire to be the best.

no comprende. im just a guy that takes photos.

 

[minicoop1985]

To consider one's self an artist and show things in some stuffy gallery or the like takes some modicum of narcissism. There's a desire to have others WANT their work or that theirs is somehow superior enough to deserve the attention they want it to receive. It also requires many, many turtlenecks.

To consider one's self a photographer isn't the same. A photographer can create art, and it can be worthy of being shown in stuffy galleries and yadda yadda yadda. It's the title that seems to make the difference.

 

[manaheim]

Oh, I forgot ...

A thread with labeling of other individuals and ascribing characteristics to them based upon overgeneralization. [check]

7 pages...

 

[robbins.photo]

Oh, I forgot ...

A thread with labeling of other individuals and ascribing characteristics to them based upon overgeneralization. [check]

7 pages...

True, but the turtleneck suggestion sounded good. And maybe a pipe. Ya, I think maybe I could pull that off.

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[Rick58]

So now you not only have to be an "artist" to enjoy photography but you also have to exist in a certain social circle?
Some guy on here once commented to me that my photography isn't the problem, it's me.
Well, considering the alternative, I'll take that as a compliment.

 

[The_Traveler]

Oh, I forgot ...

A thread with labeling of other individuals and ascribing characteristics to them based upon overgeneralization. [check]

7 pages...

So your point is to come in here and make yourself look so much better than us by being cynical?

As a moderator you really should try not to be such an asshat.

 

[The_Traveler]

You're wrong.

If you believe so. Please show me im wrong.

Since you seem to have a never ending supply of ludicrous beliefs completely without basis in fact, when you assert something it is really up to you to convince the reader that you are right,
Since history and common knowledge is not on your side in this one, it will be interesting to hear some justification for your belief.

 

[robbins.photo]

So now you not only have to be an "artist" to enjoy photography but you also have to exist in a certain social circle?
Some guy on here once commented to me that my photography isn't the problem, it's me.
Well, considering the alternative, I'll take that as a compliment.

Lol Rick, this is genius. You know what you have here? The best idea for a new reality tv series ever. We throw on some plaid shirts, grab our cameras and have a film crew follow us as we shoot art openings.

They can document the hilarity as we interact with the upper echelon of the fine art world.

I've even got a title, "Photography with the Philistines"

Lol

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[robbins.photo]

So often I go to shows where photography is displayed and I see images that are out of focus or poorly processed or mis-framed - and these are not creative decisions but unrecognized or ignored defects - and the photographer waves off these issues as being unimportant. It is as if everything that any artist does in preparation for being able to create and sustain that window into another reality just doesn't count. That, because they don't know or care, they believe they have invented a new way to create by skipping over all of this knowledge, craft, experience stuff that all the rest of us struggle with. It's a great time saver not to actually have to 'know' anything or be able to 'do' anything with any degree of skill. (While it may seem like I am placing undue emphasis on technical 'correctness' as opposed to the art of any image, my attitude is that technical issues are totally irrelevant until they detract from the image - and then technical faults become enormously important.)

My favorite paragraph and sentence from the rewrite... Points are reasonable and valid, IMHO.

Oh, I forgot ...

A thread with labeling of other individuals and ascribing characteristics to them based upon overgeneralization. [check]

7 pages...

So your point is to come in here and make yourself look so much better than us by being cynical?

As a moderator you really should try not to be such an asshat.

Lew, you just couldn't possibly get any cuddlier!

Do you practice being this adorable or does it just come naturally?

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[The_Traveler]

It's interesting to try to have an actual discussion here; it's like having a conversation in the midst of a crowd of upset ducks.
Everyone who has nothing to contribute to the discussion chimes in with some version of 'look at me, look at me'.
I really don't care about other people's obsessions with their own wittiness or feelings of inadequacy and how they deal with them, I just wish they would ignore my threads.