Is browsing Ashley Madison better or worse than watching porn?

[waday]

I get the whole expectation of privacy thing, but in the end, I've no sympathy for cheaters, nor those who are trying unsuccessfully to cheat.

I have little sympathy for hypocrites, but we're setting a very dangerous precedence and walking a very slippery slope. It's ok to release certain information but not other information? Where does it stop? Who decides where it stops?

Is it ok to release names/addresses of people who may partake in a certain religion that's different than yours? What about a list of names and their respective races? Or names and their sexual preference? What about a list of gun owners and addresses? What about a list of people that have various diseases or mental issues?

The list can go on. This information was supposed to be private. Whether we agree with their actions or not, that's not for us to decide.

Maybe we should just get out our pitchforks now for the next public lynching. We don't know who it'll be, but don't worry, just follow the pack of people and start yelling. We'll fit right in.

 

[robbins.photo]

Maybe we should just get out our pitchforks now for the next public lynching. We don't know who it'll be, but don't worry, just follow the pack of people and start yelling. We'll fit right in.

Umm.. actually were out of pitchforks. And torches. Nobody reordered them. We don't even have any tar left, I think were down to like 4 or 5 feathers at most.

 

[BananaRepublic]

you realize none of the women on AM are real, right?

Man, guys are out there killing themselves over fake women? WTH.

Yes. All the women were staff members that were paid to string the men along and keep paying. They always happened to be "busy that day" when an actual hookup was to take place.

It is a glorified sex phone hotline...

using tapatalk.

Its a case of a thousands monkeys at a thousand typewriters with theses sites.

 

[JacaRanda]

I told Wifey that TPF is The Porn Forum and that she should join me in the shenanigans. She signed up, checked it out, made sure it was safe, and then left me alone to enjoy my porn alone. Occasionally, I will say "Honey come here, you have to see what they are saying/doing in the Porn Forum." She checks it out and tells ME "you should not have typed that, just leave it alone; if you don't, I will take your porn away".

 

[Buckster]

I get the whole expectation of privacy thing, but in the end, I've no sympathy for cheaters, nor those who are trying unsuccessfully to cheat.

I have little sympathy for hypocrites, but we're setting a very dangerous precedence and walking a very slippery slope. It's ok to release certain information but not other information? Where does it stop? Who decides where it stops?

Is it ok to release names/addresses of people who may partake in a certain religion that's different than yours? What about a list of names and their respective races? Or names and their sexual preference? What about a list of gun owners and addresses? What about a list of people that have various diseases or mental issues?

The list can go on. This information was supposed to be private. Whether we agree with their actions or not, that's not for us to decide.

Maybe we should just get out our pitchforks now for the next public lynching. We don't know who it'll be, but don't worry, just follow the pack of people and start yelling. We'll fit right in.

Sorry, but I don't buy into slippery slope arguments.

But since you obviously do buy into slippery slope arguments, ponder these: Should we condemn a woman who informs her lover's wife that his "out of town trips" are actually at her house on the other side of town? Should we condemn the wife for violating his privacy when she picks his phone up off the kitchen counter when it pings, and sees the "private" message from his lover about how she can't wait to be naked with him later that afternoon?

Oh! The humanity! Where does it all end???!!!

 

[waday]

Sorry, but I don't buy into slippery slope arguments.

But since you obviously do buy into slippery slope arguments, ponder these: Should we condemn a woman who informs her lover's wife that his "out of town trips" are actually at her house on the other side of town? Should we condemn the wife for violating his privacy when she picks his phone up off the kitchen counter when it pings, and sees the "private" message from his lover about how she can't wait to be naked with him later that afternoon?

Oh! The humanity! Where does it all end???!!!

I don't buy into your argument.

Your argument includes three people--a couple and a lover. Why does anyone else need to get involved that doesn't have to? A lawyer? Probably. A judge? Probably. Harry and Martha down the street? No.

Maybe we should release the names of all those that have Nikons. Those are scary bunch.

 

[pixmedic]

Sorry, but I don't buy into slippery slope arguments.

But since you obviously do buy into slippery slope arguments, ponder these: Should we condemn a woman who informs her lover's wife that his "out of town trips" are actually at her house on the other side of town? Should we condemn the wife for violating his privacy when she picks his phone up off the kitchen counter when it pings, and sees the "private" message from his lover about how she can't wait to be naked with him later that afternoon?

Oh! The humanity! Where does it all end???!!!

I don't buy into your argument.

Your argument includes three people--a couple and a lover. Why does anyone else need to get involved that doesn't have to? A lawyer? Probably. A judge? Probably. Harry and Martha down the street? No.

Maybe we should release the names of all those that have Nikons. Those are scary bunch.

nuh uh...
its the....film people that are the dangerous ones.
lurking about with their fixer..

 

[robbins.photo]

nuh uh...
its the....film people that are the dangerous ones.
lurking about with their fixer..

The film people are back? Seriously? Geez. We just sprayed for them last month too. Ok, I'll see if we can't get the exterminator back out here.

Lol

 

[Buckster]

Sorry, but I don't buy into slippery slope arguments.

But since you obviously do buy into slippery slope arguments, ponder these: Should we condemn a woman who informs her lover's wife that his "out of town trips" are actually at her house on the other side of town? Should we condemn the wife for violating his privacy when she picks his phone up off the kitchen counter when it pings, and sees the "private" message from his lover about how she can't wait to be naked with him later that afternoon?

Oh! The humanity! Where does it all end???!!!

I don't buy into your argument.

Your argument includes three people--a couple and a lover.

There's 3 in this too: a couple and a hacker. The only REAL difference is HOW the party cheated on finds out. Either way, it violates the "privacy" of the cheater, which is whom you're trying to defend. Feeling guilty, or something?

Why does anyone else need to get involved that doesn't have to? A lawyer? Probably. A judge? Probably. Harry and Martha down the street? No.

What does "need" have to do with anything at all?

Cheaters usually eventually get caught. It happens a LOT. To most, the cheater really has only themselves to blame for their own actions. But you say it's the fault of whomever tattled on them - THEY are the despicable characters in your world.

Honestly, I find that view and that take on morality and ethics to be pretty sad.

 

[pixmedic]

Steady on lads....
Let's not start this thread down a "circling the drain" direction. Keep it civil please. To help, heres my ferret to lighten the mood.

 

[waday]

There's 3 in this too: a couple and a hacker.

And the millions of people that read the list? You forgot them.

But you say it's the fault of whomever tattled on them - THEY are the despicable characters in your world.

Whoa, I said that? I don't recall that. When did I say that? I must have been drunk.

Maybe you're misunderstanding my view here. I'm in no way placing the blame on anyone other than those cheating for the cheating. I don't place any blame on AM for cheating. They simply provided a service that was apparently in high demand.

However, I DO place blame on the hackers for releasing private information.

Hackers can be quite the despicable characters. I don't think they look like minions at all. I don't know if you've ever had your credit card or personal information stolen, but it's not exactly the nicest and easiest process to go through. While getting a phone call from the bank asking if you've used your credit card at a McDonald's in Russia is kind of funny, it is a little disconcerting. Having to go through months of statements to figure out if any extra charges were added here or there, while spending hours on the phone with the bank, isn't pleasant at all.

Steady on lads....
Let's not start this thread down a "circling the drain" direction. Keep it civil please. To help, heres my ferret to lighten the mood.

Your ferret is hairier than I thought... And it has a face!

 

[BananaRepublic]

Steady on lads....
Let's not start this thread down a "circling the drain" direction. Keep it civil please. To help, heres my ferret to lighten the mood.

View attachment 107429

Urban Dictionary: bestiality

 

[pixmedic]

Steady on lads....
Let's not start this thread down a "circling the drain" direction. Keep it civil please. To help, heres my ferret to lighten the mood.

View attachment 107429

Urban Dictionary: bestiality

hey man...
whatever floats your boat.
im not judging you....but....I dont think my ferret is that into you.

 

[Buckster]

There's 3 in this too: a couple and a hacker.

And the millions of people that read the list? You forgot them.

Are you trying to claim that it's only because of this list that people other than the one cheated on finds out about the cheating? Where I come from, there's usually a blow up and every friend and family member of the couple knows about it in short order.

Meanwhile, my understanding is that this published list didn't even include actual names, just email addresses and the last four digits of their cards. And who cares if [email protected] is in the list, unless you happen to know who the actual owner of that email address is? It's not like "millions of people that read that list" know or care at all. They're looking for their own significant others, or public figure hypocrites, that have used their actual known email addresses (which is pretty stupid of the people who signed up, btw).

But you say it's the fault of whomever tattled on them - THEY are the despicable characters in your world.

Whoa, I said that? I don't recall that. When did I say that? I must have been drunk.

Maybe you're misunderstanding my view here. I'm in no way placing the blame on anyone other than those cheating for the cheating. I don't place any blame on AM for cheating. They simply provided a service that was apparently in high demand.

However, I DO place blame on the hackers for releasing private information.

Ahem... for tattling on the cheaters.

Hackers can be quite the despicable characters. I don't think they look like minions at all. I don't know if you've ever had your credit card or personal information stolen, but it's not exactly the nicest and easiest process to go through. While getting a phone call from the bank asking if you've used your credit card at a McDonald's in Russia is kind of funny, it is a little disconcerting. Having to go through months of statements to figure out if any extra charges were added here or there, while spending hours on the phone with the bank, isn't pleasant at all.

My bank was hacked about 14 years ago, just before Christmas, and they took all the money out of a LOT of accounts, including mine. Yeah, it was unpleasant, but all straightened out in about a week.

But I don't think that's the issue here. They didn't release to the "millions of people that read that list" the information one needs to get at the funds on those credit cards. So, that's not the issue.

No, what they released to those "millions of people that read the list" is the information that allows individuals to find out if their own significant other, using their own unique and known to the significant other email address, confirmed with the last 4 digits of their unique and known to the significant other CC# - are actively cheating on them, or trying to cheat on them, or wanting to cheat on them.

I don't see how that's really significantly any different than any of the MANY ways people find out that their significant other is cheating on them, MOST by way of "violating" the cheater's "privacy". If she suspects and checks the website, or if she suspects and checks his phone messages, or if she suspects and puts a GPS in his trunk, or if she suspects and follows him herself, or if she suspects and hires a gumshoe to follow him and take pictures and recordings, what's the real difference?

I just don't see it.

 

[waday]

Don't worry mod squad, I'm stepping out of the circle before we hit the drain.