Is browsing Ashley Madison better or worse than watching porn?

[limr]

nuh uh...
its the....film people that are the dangerous ones.
lurking about with their fixer..

They have FIXER?

OMG! why didn't somebody tell me?

They could fix stuff! Stuff that maybe we didn't even realize was broken!

Fix here, fix there, fix every damn thing! Fix the whole freakin' world, why doncha?

We could. We just don't feel like it.

 

[robbins.photo]

Lol... you all digital people amuse me. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE FILM SIDE?

Ya but the little green guy warned me that if I ever did start down that path, forever would it dominate my destiny.

Of course he also had a thing for Mrs. Piggy.. sooo.. hmmmm....

 

[JacaRanda]

Hmmm, only 5 votes and not many typed answers to the OP. Gonna see if I can get Wifey to chime in, get a female perspective.
She is a capitalist so if Braineack is correct.....cha-ching.

Okay, she said Ashley Madison is worse because the intent is to cheat. However, porn can be shared and enjoyed together.
As to Cha-Ching, she said I can do it, just use my Flip Wilson Geraldine voice flip wilson geraldine - Google Search

 

[limr]

I agree with wifey - Ashley Madison is worse. Well, worse than most generic porn anyway. Stuff involving animals or kids or rape? Perhaps in that case, I'd rather deal with a cheating spouse.

 

[otherprof]

I saw some old, grainy, B&W, silent, 8mm porn when I was in boot camp one night when the company commanders showed it to a couple hundred of us in the smoke break room. Then I saw Deep Throat and The Devil in Miss Jones one night with a bunch of other sailors at some theater when we went ashore once. While it was eye-opening, overall I was pretty unimpressed both times, actually.

About 10 years later, after VHS tapes came out, my wife introduced me to porn again and we enjoyed it together fairly often, adding to our own pleasures and teaching us new tricks to play with.

I think that anything a couple shares together is fine, and that goes for porn or Ashley Madison, or any other kind of sexual outlet. I think if someone needs to hide something about themselves from their significant other however, there's a problem that needs to be resolved, not hidden away. If it's watching porn, that should be fairly easy to deal with. If it's infidelity however, or even the attempt at infidelity by signing onto a website where that's the goal, it's SO MUCH worse.

I never even heard of the A.M. thing until it hit the news, and to me it's been nothing but a barrel of laughs. I get the whole expectation of privacy thing, but in the end, I've no sympathy for cheaters, nor those who are trying unsuccessfully to cheat. It's just not right to do that to the person they claim to love and treasure. It's not in any way fair to them. They should have a serious conversation about how they feel with their significant other instead of acting on urges, and they, as a couple, should come to terms with it, one way or the other.

I also can't stand hypocrites, and that's been my favorite part of this - the outing of hypocrites.

I also enjoy the outing of hypocrites, and find it funny that supposedly intelligent people would think that anything done via the internet will remain private. I also think that the sex part of this fiasco is titillating, but the essence of the moral issue lies with the breaking of promises and the lying rather than with the sex, or attempts at sex.

 

[JacaRanda]

I saw some old, grainy, B&W, silent, 8mm porn when I was in boot camp one night when the company commanders showed it to a couple hundred of us in the smoke break room. Then I saw Deep Throat and The Devil in Miss Jones one night with a bunch of other sailors at some theater when we went ashore once. While it was eye-opening, overall I was pretty unimpressed both times, actually.

About 10 years later, after VHS tapes came out, my wife introduced me to porn again and we enjoyed it together fairly often, adding to our own pleasures and teaching us new tricks to play with.

I think that anything a couple shares together is fine, and that goes for porn or Ashley Madison, or any other kind of sexual outlet. I think if someone needs to hide something about themselves from their significant other however, there's a problem that needs to be resolved, not hidden away. If it's watching porn, that should be fairly easy to deal with. If it's infidelity however, or even the attempt at infidelity by signing onto a website where that's the goal, it's SO MUCH worse.

I never even heard of the A.M. thing until it hit the news, and to me it's been nothing but a barrel of laughs. I get the whole expectation of privacy thing, but in the end, I've no sympathy for cheaters, nor those who are trying unsuccessfully to cheat. It's just not right to do that to the person they claim to love and treasure. It's not in any way fair to them. They should have a serious conversation about how they feel with their significant other instead of acting on urges, and they, as a couple, should come to terms with it, one way or the other.

I also can't stand hypocrites, and that's been my favorite part of this - the outing of hypocrites.

I also enjoy the outing of hypocrites,

Me too.
The Right-Wing's 20 Biggest Sex Hypocrites

 

[waday]

find it funny that supposedly intelligent people would think that anything done via the internet will remain private.

Just a general comment, not picking on anyone in general, so I removed the reference to that person. Also, my mood is a little piqued by work, so apologies in advance for my curtness, but...

Everyone keeps saying that we find it 'funny' or 'people should realize' that things done via secured network should be public information.

It's not like they were on a public forum using an 'anonymous' username making posts that anyone can see. They were utilizing a service that they believed to be secure. People can't seem to remove their opinions of the end users from the situation at hand. What if they were a bunch of innocent fluffy red pandas? Would you feel differently?

Next time you log into your email, or TPF, or Flickr, or Amazon, or B&H, or your bank, or your credit card, or your website, or anywhere else, and someone steals your password and sells your contact and credit card information, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways". If someone is reading through your emails right now, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways". If someone steals all of your money and you have to spend hours trying to get it back and you lose hours or days of work because of it, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways".

Because if you don't say that and you get mad or sad, you're a hypocrite.

Sorry. End Rant.

 

[JacaRanda]

find it funny that supposedly intelligent people would think that anything done via the internet will remain private.

Just a general comment, not picking on anyone in general, so I removed the reference to that person. Also, my mood is a little piqued by work, so apologies in advance for my curtness, but...

Everyone keeps saying that we find it 'funny' or 'people should realize' that things done via secured network should be public information.

It's not like they were on a public forum using an 'anonymous' username making posts that anyone can see. They were utilizing a service that they believed to be secure. People can't seem to remove their opinions of the end users from the situation at hand. What if they were a bunch of innocent fluffy red pandas? Would you feel differently?

Next time you log into your email, or TPF, or Flickr, or Amazon, or B&H, or your bank, or your credit card, or your website, or anywhere else, and someone steals your password and sells your contact and credit card information, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways". If someone is reading through your emails right now, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways". If someone steals all of your money and you have to spend hours trying to get it back and you lose hours or days of work because of it, you better just say, "oh well, it was public information anyways".

Because if you don't say that and you get mad or sad, you're a hypocrite.

Sorry. End Rant.

I would simply change the word 'funny' to 'crazy'. I find it crazy that supposedly intelligent people............
Not sure there is such a thing as a secured network either; particularly if the network is connected to the internet. Actually, I am sure!

 

[Buckster]

Yeah, I think we all get the idea that hackers aren't benevolent or harmless, especially when they do stuff we don't like, like e-rob us.

But I don't think that was the subject of this thread, nor the question asked, no matter how much you (wayday or others in that camp) want to try to make it about hackers and their immorality. Maybe you should start a thread about how evil hackers are, and see how that one goes?

Another thread you might want to start is, "how secure do you think your so-called privacy is on the internet?"

Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, this thread is about whether it's more wrong to watch porn, or more wrong to cheat or try to cheat, and one can guess that those two options would both be in the circumstance where the significant other doesn't know about it. Any thoughts on that?

 

[minicoop1985]

So we haven't talked about one way the OP could be interpreted: Which is more ENJOYABLE, Ashley Madison or porn?

 

[vintagesnaps]

Either one could be something to be proud of and just the kind of thing you'd want your involvement in going all over the internet. lol What do I know, when I first heard about this I thought it was some dating site or something and wondered what the big deal was!

 

[booboo60]

I surf christianmingle.com because that is where the really freaky folks hang out!

But yeah as a married man it's worse to go on Ashley Madison. That site there is an implied intent to cheat. Porn is just there to get off, nothing more.

 

[Euphrasia Alekto]

I guess it is just the same. Cheating starts from one's mind. Nothing is different between what one thinks and what one does in this case.

 

[The_Traveler]

I guess it is just the same. Cheating starts from one's mind.

OK, I can go along with that; everything starts with one's mind except for some reflex actions, like jerking away from a stove, etc.

Nothing is different between what one thinks and what one does in this case.

Now that is just silly.
So if one thinks of eating muffins, that's the same?
In very hot weather, if one dreams about jumping into a cool pool of water with clothing on, the result is the same?
If one thinks about the physical pleasure of having sex with an attractive person, not one's own partner, that's the equivalent of actually having that sex?

In 1996 there was a movie released entitled 'from dusk till dawn'. It;s mostly violent and devolves into something silly at the end. I do enjoy a small part about one hour in where Salma Hayek, in a very abbreviated costume, does a table dance with a snake and I think how nice it would be to be as close to Selma as that snake.

In your estimation, that is the same as actually being with Salma Hayek?

Even my wife wouldn't think that way.

 

[JacaRanda]

Here we go again.

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