I've been reminded why I ditched Windows

[Inst!nct]

The problem with them working together is the mindset of the users. When Apple makes the kind of commercials they are currently running, they fuel the "war". Their ads directly downplay the PC platform and windows specifically. It's realy nothing different than a typical politician running a smear campaign about the person running against him. I don't like, or support that.

To me, if you have to downplay your competition, somethings wrong.

I have used both platforms and like them both. For me, the PC fit better. That may not be the case for you and thats ok.

well said..

back to fueling the war though, like someone earlier said on the forums

a pc is like an SLR, a mac is like a P&S

 

[Plato]

As for MAC OS, since it is gaining market share, so more and more Trojans and worms are targeting it nowadays. If your machine is not infected, good. But I will still recommend scan it just for the safe side.

That allegation/recommendation was made ten years ago, nine years ago, eight years ago... (you get the point).

Again, connected 24/7 since the Internet was opened to the public in the late eighties. No virus protection and no virus... EVER! I don't care why, I care only that it's a fact.

Why are you so sure you have no virus or malware in your computer? I am not saying your computer is infected but I do came across some machines that the owner do not know their PCs were infected since no strange behaviors nor symptoms with their PC.

A well written spyware can hide itself so that the user do not know about it (stealth) and send information out from the computer in the background. In fact, the malware/spyware do not want you to know your computer is infected so that the user will keep using the computer.

I've used enought Windoze machines over the years at work and at friends' homes that I'm well aware of the symptoms of a virus or other malware. In fact, I'm using an infected Windoze machine right now (our multi-million dollar IT department appears to be powerless).

Connected 24/7 since the Internet was opened to the public in the late eighties. No virus protection and no virus... EVER! I don't care why, I care only that it's a fact. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[Plato]

a pc is like an SLR, a mac is like a P&S

Why? Is it because there's no need to spend hours and hours getting a Mac to run properly?

 

[NateWagner]

Let me type slowly so that you understand: n-o i-n-f-e-c-t-i-o-n-s E-V-E-R! I've been on the 'net 24/7 ever since it was opened to the public in the late eighties and I've never had any virus protection software. I don't care why and I won't argue why. I care only that it's a fact and that's not open for discussion.

When you said EVER, that continues into the future, not the past. I will spell slowly so you can understand.
N-O-I-N-F-E-C-T-I-O-N-S-Y-E-T!

it may be a while before they happen, but eventually it may happen. The fact that something hasn't happened is not proof that it never will. All I'm saying.

 

[Plato]

Let me type slowly so that you understand: n-o i-n-f-e-c-t-i-o-n-s E-V-E-R! I've been on the 'net 24/7 ever since it was opened to the public in the late eighties and I've never had any virus protection software. I don't care why and I won't argue why. I care only that it's a fact and that's not open for discussion.

When you said EVER, that continues into the future, not the past. I will spell slowly so you can understand.
N-O-I-N-F-E-C-T-I-O-N-S-Y-E-T!

it may be a while before they happen, but eventually it may happen. The fact that something hasn't happened is not proof that it never will. All I'm saying.

I've also never been attacked by Martian death rays. I'll worry about that possibility about as much as I'll worry about a Mac virus.

Why are Windoze enthusiasts such crepe-hangers? Oh yeah, I know.

 

[NateWagner]

I've never been shot with a gun... doesn't mean it won't or can't happen.
I've never had H1N1... doesn't mean it won't happen
I've never drank Tequila... doesn't mean it won't happen

your logic is a classic fallacy and is utterly ridiculous. I have yet to make any comment that MAC is not quite safe. I have merely corrected your statement.

 

[inTempus]

They can't work together because of the mindset of the typical Mac user. I'm not accusing anyone here of this but it's true. Within the past 10 years the professional Starbucks websurfers have started a faddish elitist movement in which they truly believe they become a member of the socialite elites just because they became a SJobs lemming.

That's a bit over the top. Some of the most heated vitriol come from Windows users and it's directed towards Mac users. They're both capable of being a bit crazy at times but neither has the corner on the market.

Because you are such a strong proponent of Windows, does that make you an elitist Windows snob who is a Gates lemming?

I remember not too long ago we never saw this tension between mac and PC users. Most people used both at some point throughout their day.

I don't know what region of the world you're talking about, but the Mac vs. PC debates have raged since I can remember. If anything, they're less caustic today than they were 10 years ago as more people have shifted towards OSX from PC, and like me have been known to use both (I'm typing this from my W7 machine, again).

It was something about the iPod that ruined that harmony though. For some reason these people honestly believe they are elite because they own an apple product and instantly grow this elitist disgust for anyone that doesn't conform.

I've never seen this elitist attitude of iPod users. I don't know how an iPod has anything to do with the Mac vs. PC debates as the iPod is merely a media playback device. Most of the iPod owners I know use them with Windows anyway.

The iPod gave Apple a segue back into the computer business to degree... in that their popularity revitalized a struggling company. The final move that propelled Apple back into the running in terms of PC sales was the introduction of Intel chips. That's what brought me over... that and how badly Vista sucked. If they were still using Power PC chips, I would have been running XP until W7 released.

I figured if the Mac sucked under OSX I could at least boot it in Windows and still get some use out of it. I quickly found that I liked OSX much better than Windows... although W7 is growing on me.

 

[Plato]

I've never been shot with a gun... doesn't mean it won't or can't happen.
I've never had H1N1... doesn't mean it won't happen
I've never drank Tequila... doesn't mean it won't happen

your logic is a classic fallacy and is utterly ridiculous. I have yet to make any comment that MAC is not quite safe. I have merely corrected your statement.

I don't worry about being shot with a gun.
I don't worry about H1N1.
I don't worry about death rays from Mars.
I don't worry about computer viruses.

I have better things to do, like drinking Tequila.

 

[NateWagner]

that's fine... don't worry about it. I don't either.

That being said, I still keep antivirus on my mac just in case.

 

[Village Idiot]

Gates doesn't work for MS anymore, Ballmer took over.

 

[Inst!nct]

a pc is like an SLR, a mac is like a P&S

Why? Is it because there's no need to spend hours and hours getting a Mac to run properly?

so it takes hours for a slr to work?

at the basis, they are relatively the same, but you can upgrade with an slr/pc, not with a mac

 

[Montana]

I've never been shot with a gun... doesn't mean it won't or can't happen.
I've never had H1N1... doesn't mean it won't happen
I've never drank Tequila... doesn't mean it won't happen

your logic is a classic fallacy and is utterly ridiculous. I have yet to make any comment that MAC is not quite safe. I have merely corrected your statement.

Nate, Nate, Nate............give it a whirl and post back in the morning......if you can find your house, your shoes, or your car. LOL

 

[Dao]

I still keep antivirus on my mac just in case.

:thumbup:

P.S. Do I need to backup my files since I have not had a single hard disk failure in my PCs?

 

[Montana]

Does this thread mean that we have to add our computer/OS to our signature?

 

[Plato]

They can't work together because of the mindset of the typical Mac user. I'm not accusing anyone here of this but it's true. Within the past 10 years the professional Starbucks websurfers have started a faddish elitist movement in which they truly believe they become a member of the socialite elites just because they became a SJobs lemming.

That's a bit over the top. Some of the most heated vitriol come from Windows users and it's directed towards Mac users. They're both capable of being a bit crazy at times but neither has the corner on the market.

Because you are such a strong proponent of Windows, does that make you an elitist Windows snob who is a Gates lemming?

I remember not too long ago we never saw this tension between mac and PC users. Most people used both at some point throughout their day.

I don't know what region of the world you're talking about, but the Mac vs. PC debates have raged since I can remember. If anything, they're less caustic today than they were 10 years ago as more people have shifted towards OSX from PC, and like me have been known to use both (I'm typing this from my W7 machine, again).

It was something about the iPod that ruined that harmony though. For some reason these people honestly believe they are elite because they own an apple product and instantly grow this elitist disgust for anyone that doesn't conform.

I've never seen this elitist attitude of iPod users. I don't know how an iPod has anything to do with the Mac vs. PC debates as the iPod is merely a media playback device. Most of the iPod owners I know use them with Windows anyway.

The iPod gave Apple a segue back into the computer business to degree... in that their popularity revitalized a struggling company. The final move that propelled Apple back into the running in terms of PC sales was the introduction of Intel chips. That's what brought me over... that and how badly Vista sucked. If they were still using Power PC chips, I would have been running XP until W7 released.

I figured if the Mac sucked under OSX I could at least boot it in Windows and still get some use out of it. I quickly found that I liked OSX much better than Windows... although W7 is growing on me.

Probably the major reason for the Mac stability is that the same company sells the hardware and the operating system.

I had no issue with the Power-PC chips but, in my case, I had neither the need nor the desire to load Windoze.

I often wonder what the computer world would be like if Gates had lost the lawsuit.

By the way, if you haven't yet set up Time Machine, it's really slick.