....JUST SO MUCH INTELLECTUAL MASTURBATION?

[bribrius]

I think "amazing" is a bit more than generous. In my opinion, judging by the examples on his website, the OP could stand to at least *think* a bit more about art, history and theory.

My larger point is that great photographers spend time thinking about photography as much as they do practicing it.

why would he want to learn about art? we do photography.

I didn't choose the troll life...

I really am sometimes however....
it is still a valid point. if you tell someone you are a artist being a photographer is about the last thing that will come to mind for them. painter, sculptor, hell even a makeup artist probably would have more ground than being a photographer with most. Most of photography is about capturing what OTHERS are doing. Most photographers probably shouldnt even be allowed to comment on art unless they paint, sculpt, something else too. How much of photography would be classified as art by most people. .002 percent? Ever notice how much easier it is for someone to get a painting shown than a photograph? The price differences? Photograph a hundred dollars, painting a thousand dollars. The pricing reflects the consensus. Not even the same ball field, even the art world doesn't consider photography in the same realm..

 

[bribrius]

here is a good read..
"Is Photography Art?" by Robert Balcomb (The Essay Page): TheScreamOnline Internet e-Journal of Fiction, Art, Photography, Essays, The Strange & Bizarre

 

[PixelRabbit]

Art is in the eye of the beholder.

I consider some of my photography art regardless of the fact that some don't, personally it comes down to that I put a lot of time and effort into creating the pictures I consider art and I get a huge personal payoff from it, that some others enjoy it also just makes that payoff that much sweeter.

 

[bribrius]

Is Photography Art?

I close my case. A artist CAN BE a photographer. But a photographer is not a artist.

 

[bribrius]

Art is in the eye of the beholder.

I consider some of my photography art regardless of the fact that some don't, personally it comes down to that I put a lot of time and effort into creating the pictures I consider art and I get a huge personal payoff from it, that some others enjoy it also just makes that payoff that much sweeter.

perhaps you are a artist first, photographer second?

 

[PixelRabbit]

Art is in the eye of the beholder.

I consider some of my photography art regardless of the fact that some don't, personally it comes down to that I put a lot of time and effort into creating the pictures I consider art and I get a huge personal payoff from it, that some others enjoy it also just makes that payoff that much sweeter.

perhaps you are a artist first, photographer second?

Photographs are my chosen medium, my camera, computer and printer/darkroom are my tools, photography is the act of creating my chosen medium.

 

[PixelRabbit]

BUT....

Not all people who practice photography have the intention of creating art, just like not all people who use the medium of paint are creating art, a house painter uses the medium but has no intention of creating art, they are using the medium for another purpose.

 

[PixelRabbit]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

 

[bribrius]

BUT....

Not all people who practice photography have the intention of creating art, just like not all people who use the medium of paint are creating art, a house painter uses the medium but has no intention of creating art, they are using the medium for another purpose.

you have other mediums too? seems most artistic people are artists in life in general. paint, sculpt, don't matter it's who they are. Give them a pencil they can draw and a coloring book and crayons they can even make a coloring book amazing. I like photography because I tried painting and I was okay at it but not great. Photography takes less artistic qualities for me. My wife isn't really into photography much, has trouble using a camera off auto, but can paint better than me and scribble out your portrait on a piece of paper without even noticing she's doing it. go figure.

for the record, in case no one noticed. I have almost zero artistic genes. so im not claiming to be a artist here id say the majority of everyone probably is more artistic than myself..

 

[Overread]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

I can make the pain go away - just ask and I can make it all go away (I sadly can't make the ironing go away - at least unless you can supply me with petrol, matches and a new ID).

 

[robbins.photo]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

On the upside I got a lot of nice, crisp unwrinkled shirts out of the deal. The downside of course being that I had sit through all of this to get there.. lol. I think this positively proves the reason why dry cleaning is still around.

Is photography art? Well first somebody will say we need to define art, but since you can't define art - NASCAR ensues. If a tree falls in the woods and nobodies there to hear it.. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? And if your not a chicken, why would you even give a crap? Ad nauesuem. Lol.

So ya, suddenly ironing - not looking that bad.. rotfl

 

[robbins.photo]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

I can make the pain go away - just ask and I can make it all go away (I sadly can't make the ironing go away - at least unless you can supply me with petrol, matches and a new ID).

Petrol - isn't that the crazy UK version of gasoline? Lol

 

[bribrius]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

On the upside I got a lot of nice, crisp unwrinkled shirts out of the deal. The downside of course being that I had sit through all of this to get there.. lol. I think this positively proves the reason why dry cleaning is still around.

Is photography art? Well first somebody will say we need to define art, but since you can't define art - NASCAR ensues. If a tree falls in the woods and nobodies there to hear it.. Which came first, the chicken or the egg? And if your not a chicken, why would you even give a crap? Ad nauesuem. Lol.

So ya, suddenly ironing - not looking that bad.. rotfl

it's all b.s.
lol.....
im actually surprised this thread is still going. But I don't feel guilty b.s. ing in it I took some photos last night, granted, not very good ones but at least I hit the shutter..
so I can b.s. guilty free for another day...

 

[PixelRabbit]

Oh damn! Just realized what thread we are posting in, oh the ironing!!!

I can make the pain go away - just ask and I can make it all go away (I sadly can't make the ironing go away - at least unless you can supply me with petrol, matches and a new ID).

lol damn if gas didn't just go up to 1.40/L I'd start over as just a simple Rabbit but I have matches....and bacon....(no not the Canadian kind before you all pull that one out lol )

 

[Derrel]

just now. perfect example of why. i go out with the camera. turn it on. no memory card. goes in demo mode. Take ten wonderful shots. One i had been thinking of for a while. thinking im not sure if i can get them back off as they are in camera but cant afford not to try.. turn the camera off. And they are poof gone. I guess nothing is saved in camera, lesson learned.
i cant believe i forgot to bring a memory card.

UGGGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yes, this is my first time ever, forgetting a memory card.

Total rookie move....telling us about the FIRST TIME you forgot the memory card...come back when you've done it 3,4,5 times and THEN tell us your war story!!! (I've done it 3 times, that I will admit to...)