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Life and Death: Retake

Rick58

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First I really want to thank everyone for their input. I realize my photography isn't for everyone but it's what I do and what's important to me, so again, thank you for taking the time to give your comments and critique. I listened to everyone and had given all comments full consideration. I'll try to address all and give my thoughts.

timor: I really liked your idea of the telephoto, but unfortunately the terrain makes it impossible. By the time I backed far enough for even my 135, I was so high the cross was down into the city

Leonore: I liked your idea of raising the cross and making it the highest element of the photo. I raised it even higher to get the cross above the horizon, which really bothered me on the original. I did however keep the courthouse. I wanted to keep the "high-rise" element to help form the feeling of "city"

Chris: I gave as much room to the right of the courthouse as possible. Just outside the right edge of the frame, the county access building starts, which is as high as the courthouse. Unfortunately, it is partly obscured by foreground branches, so I wouldn't include it. Sky is cropped to a comfortable height. Your mention of the stone lines? Way too deep for this farm boy. But if it works, yeah I planned it :wink:

John: plumb and level :wink:

bribrius & ECphoto. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate it.

I think that about covers everyone. Thanks again!

Digital has made me sloppy. Shoot 10 frames and hope one turns out. Then fix the sloppiness in post.
I spent more effort on this particular shot then any since I picked up my first digital. I forced myself back to my films days. Slow and patent. I started this shot at 10am this morning, it's now 2PM. Tripod, cable release and bulb level. Waited an hour for the sun to clear the trees, removing the shadows from the foreground tombstone. Results is a nearly full frame photo accept for the 8x10 crop which required very little post to hopefully retain image quality.

Anyway, for those still here, here's the result:
$Life and Death.webp
 
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Very nice Rick and well worth the effort! Great composition; if it weren't for those couple of tall buildings in the background, this could easily be a view from 75-100 years ago.
 
good. personal preference. contrast and detail a little high and a little light. maybe you worked too hard ......???????? doesn't look quit as "real"


unless that is the effect you wanted..
 
good. personal preference. contrast and detail a little high and a little light. maybe you worked too hard ......???????? doesn't look quit as "real"


unless that is the effect you wanted..

Thanks, but yeah, the toning down was intentional. I tone mapped the crap out of the first one. I didn't see it until I walked away and looked at it again several hours later. I'm trying to maintain the feel of B&W film. I guess we'll see if others think it's off. if so I may have to look at it again. Thanks
 
Looking at this, especially in the full size image, I very much get the feeling of an old, large format wet-plate image.
 
good. personal preference. contrast and detail a little high and a little light. maybe you worked too hard ......???????? doesn't look quit as "real"


unless that is the effect you wanted..
Thanks, but yeah, the toning down was intentional. I tone mapped the crap out of the first one. I didn't see it until I walked away and looked at it again several hours later. I'm trying to maintain the feel of B&W film. I guess we'll see if others think it's off. if so I may have to look at it again. Thanks
well. Either way I like it and its your photo and really just matters what you prefer. im just thinking of your original life and death concept (pretty heavy to start with) and what follows along with that the best. If you think this follows along with your concept the best stick with it. From my downfalls I can speak from playing too much with a image or retaking it and losing sight of the original purpose and concept..
 
good. personal preference. contrast and detail a little high and a little light. maybe you worked too hard ......???????? doesn't look quit as "real"


unless that is the effect you wanted..
Thanks, but yeah, the toning down was intentional. I tone mapped the crap out of the first one. I didn't see it until I walked away and looked at it again several hours later. I'm trying to maintain the feel of B&W film. I guess we'll see if others think it's off. if so I may have to look at it again. Thanks
well. Either way I like it and its your photo and really just matters what you prefer. im just thinking of your original life and death concept (pretty heavy to start with) and what follows along with that the best. If you think this follows along with your concept the best stick with it. From my downfalls I can speak from playing too much with a image or retaking it and losing sight of the original purpose and concept..

Thanks for the comment. C&C isn't always a better way. It's often only a different way. As you say, in the end you only have to please yourself unless someone is paying you to please them.
I enjoy high contrast, but for me anyway, there are times when it fits, and times when not. I like HC for textures. Peeling paint, weathered wood and rust. Those types of things. A lot of my stuff is high contrast because those textures are what I normally look for, but once in a while, I'll climb out of the box and do something different. It's very easy to fall into a rut and pump out the same thing. Over and over again.
 
Nicely done, Rick.
 
Thanks Chris, I'm pretty happy with this one.
 
The composition here works well Rick. I also like the B+W work.
 
Thanks Rick!
 
Digital has made me sloppy. Shoot 10 frames and hope one turns out. Then fix the sloppiness in post.
I spent more effort on this particular shot then any sense I picked up my first digital. I forced myself back to my films days. Slow and patent.
This testimonial should hang above the "Photography Beginner's Forum" (:D). As a warning. Digital doesn't change anything from the old rules of creating an image.

Nice work Rick. It is quite a different image. You did mention a shadows in the early hour. Maybe this is another idea how to differentiate between death and life.
 
Thanks Ron!
 

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