Lightroom Saga Continues

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  1. smoke665

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    So I successfully moved my catalog (I thought), but as I started editing more from four days of shoots, it started slowing down, and becoming "unresponsive", till it finally got the to point of useless. This would happen in the Develop mode as it would try to update brush adjustments, when I'd switch to another image, or when I tried to switch views. I tried doing a reset preferences, no help. Checked all the things I could think of, and was almost to the point of uninstalling and reinstalling LR, when I thought I'd try a new catalog. Set up a test catalog, imported images, and it works fine again?????????

    I'm at a loss as to why it started doing what it did. Is it possible my catalog was corrupted???? I deleted several old images out of my files recently, but I always optimized catalog after doing the deletes. I was going to restore a backup but there were several new edits, that weren't on the last backup. So now I'm questioning whether to just lose the most recent edits, and go to the last backup, or try to merge the existing catalog into a new one??? Anyone else have any experience with something like this???????


     
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    What version? I've moved my files/catalog numerous times to New drives and versions and never run into anything like this. All I know is version 8s performance is much better, and they no longer suggest splitting catalogs.
     
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    Warhorse No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I'm still using my old slow computer, till the new one shows up in a week or so. It has 4GB RAM and is very slow to do much in LR/PS. Today I was trying to upload a folder in LR to the cloud and had to give up on it. Do you think this is a result of the RAM deficit?
     
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    I'm on Version 9, latest build. My issues started with the version 9 update this month. What's New in Lightroom Classic 9.0 (November 2019)? | The Lightroom Queen It forced me to convert/update the catalog, and I've been fighting it ever since.:boxing: Before I ditch much work I'm going to contact Adobe next week, to see if they can shed any light on it.
     
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    Don't think so. 16GB ram, GeForce GTX 1060 graphic card with 8GB, Intel 7, SSD primary, with an external SSD connected via Thunderbolt for a scratch disk. Watching the processes, while messing around in Lr, shows Ram utilization less then half, Processor loping along at 10-15%. It was blazing prior to the last update. Operating from the new test catalog it's blazing.
     
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    All of this hassle, for only $10 a month! What a value!
     
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    Or what a challenge, it's all about perspective. LOL

    So here's what I've done in case others encounter it. Adobe did an update to version 9, around the middle of November. That update forced me to convert the catalog to the new version. That's when a lot of the problems started, primarily when switching between views or after doing a brush adjustment. The screen would go black and I'd get a Lr unresponsive message for a little bit. Here's what I tried and the results.
    • Reset the preferences, no change
    • Optimized catalog, no change
    • Downloaded and installed new driver for Graphics card, no change. Then by accident I discovered that NVIDIA (manufacturer of my GeForce graphics card, released a "Studio Driver" on November 18th that supposedly was tested with Adobe.
    • Downloaded and installed the new "Studio Driver".
    Mostly corrected on speed issues, still have a few image files acting wonky, which could well be corrupted files. Might be time to migrate a section at a time to a new catalog.

    Update: deleted all the previews, and smart previews, rebuilt standard previews for the entire catalog. Looks like the problem resolved, as it's blazing again.
     
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    I normally don't get caught up in controversial opinions because I'm just an old fart that has been using a camera for, oh, going on forty years now. So, given Adobe's "value", young photographers many years from now will have benefited immensely from such a great "value". Really???? Lets do the math. Simple! If Adobe LR and internet access would have been available forty years ago, and if I had bought into this great "value", I would have paid nearly $5000 dollars for such a great deal - "value" - and still I wouldn't actually own ****!
     
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    you missed the sarcasm.
     
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    No! I didn't miss anything. I quoted Derrel because I know Derrel IS NOT stupid enough to believe what he stated but his sarcasm is actually reality in some people's minds.. That is why, after less than a minute, he agreed with my statement. I used his sarcasm to merely make my own statement - the fact that there is a group of morons out there in the photography world that are giving in to this "subscription based" rip off. Some people have more money than brains! And there are others that have no principles, so they will support the morons using subscription based software because it makes them "appear" better then those that can't or won't afford these greedy software companies. Braineack, I'm not blasting you but merely clarifying. You are correct in a certain perspective but it didn't apply this time. Thank you for forcing me to further expound upon my original statement!
     
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    I missed the sarcasm.
     
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    I think it was in the year 2012 when I first got Lightroom. I paid as I recall $129 for a full version on CD. I have not upgraded my Lightroom since oh, but I did wastr two years worth of $10 a month in Adobe subscription please Port basically no improvement using Lightroom CC. I canceled my contract, and have had absolutely no regrets. In exchange for staying with what works, I have had absolutely no hassles of the type that smoke665 has endured for the past couple of years. This is what, his fourth or fifth post searching for answers to problems with the constantly updated Lightroom CC? While I see this as nothing but hassle, he has attempted to portray it as a challenge.


    If I were using Lightroom as part of my business I would not stand for this nonsense. The value of having an incremental upgrade and one or two needlessly added features would be far outweighed by having a piece of software that just works. But then again, there are people who want the latest and greatest, and who are happy to go to bat for Adobe in their search for $10 a month from millions upon millions of subscribers. I remember Adobe's first trial balloon of $50 a month for Photoshop alone! I will never forget that. Adobe has managed to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs... they have opened up a market in which they had a stranglehold, and it is my opinion that within five years there will be a flood of competitours taking money away from Adobe and its greed, money-grubbing ways. Affinity Photo, Capture One, and others must all be congratulating Adobe for opening up incredible sales opportunity for them. When an Adobe upgrade breaks the computer network of one or two powerful influencers within the photo community, there will be a rash of bad publicity the likes of which Adobe might never recover from.
     
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